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Forum Index > Q&A (Newbie Friendly) > Breeding and Selling prices
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Eid0lon
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Posted: 4/20/2022 at 9:19 PM Post #1
Hey so I was wondering if my breeding or selling prices were underpriced, overpriced, or fine. My breeding and selling details is on my about me page and most of my pets are up for sale/breeding. Thanks for reading!
Slytherin7
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 1:34 AM Post #2
I'd say the themes are on the low side but overall seems pretty average prices
Eid0lon
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 7:04 AM Post #3
Okay! Thank you, how much higher should the themes be?
Slytherin7
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 12:06 PM Post #4
I mean it's kind of up to preference? I put all my males up for 1k (some special ones I set to 5k), I don't actually have any themed females for breeding but people generally set them a little higher because of the cooldown, so whatever you really feel comfortable with is really up to you. You could leave them as is if that's what you'd prefer. I'd say like 1-5k is pretty reasonable and affordable
Eid0lon
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 12:20 PM Post #5
Okay. That makes sense. I'm going to be selling the egglings of one of the purebred themes I have as a base 1000 so it make sense if I carry it over to my other themes. Thank you for your helps!
Scathreoite
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 4:20 PM Post #6
Theme pet sales depends on the species, the theme, the amount of and what traits it has, and the stats.
Obviously a 6v project theme pb sells for more than a 2c pb

generally the best bet is to check the advanced search for that theme (setting both the exact theme, setting 'include PB' to 'yes', and searching for sale price: ascending) and working from there.

An example is that currently faelora themes typically do not fetch a high price, often going for 1k-10k regardless of theme (although this may change in the leadup to their revamp), whereas lupora, vulnyx, and nixi themes can often go for 50k+

a pb sylesti with baseline tamed-tier stats won't generally fetch as high a price as one of the same theme with high stats

New traits and traits people like can potentially also fetch a higher price

Grove themes and their pbs can be expected to fetch respectable prices, especially if they have an LG res trait or good LG wild stats, regardless of species (even less-popular no-vis lg themes can potentially fetch 30k+ with the lowest tier of lg stat and no res trait, never mind the ones that are popular themes/high lg stat/desired LGres trait ones which can potentially fetch hundreds of thousands)
Eid0lon
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 5:07 PM Post #7
So then what are my themes worth, in breeding of course, only once is going to be sold since I only have one purebred themes that has a pair. The rest were gifts lol. To be honest, Ive never really known what sylestis are worth and I dont go in the lost grove, like ever. (Underleveled lol) I also didnt know sylestis had different stats until last week so I either missed something in the tutorial or Im oblivious.
Scathreoite
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 8:47 PM Post #8
Frankly I couldn't even begin to say anything about sylesti breeding prices, I've only ever put like, two pets up for breeding and that was on request, and I've only used other peoples up-for-breeding pets about the same amount of times.


on stats, sylesti base stats come anywhere between "regular species tamed stats" (str/int/dex/agi between about 9-14 with occasional outliers, hp that's 100-110 averagely, mana may be anywhere between 60 and 120 on pets from regions 1 or 2, but tamed sylesti from region 3 and festival zones including the non-fabled themes always have 80) and "Max stat" (2000 hp, 200 mana, 100 str/int/dex/agi, obtained only via breeding)

> fabled species at base tamed level average 16-22 s/i/d/a, 140-150 hp, mana 100

> regular essence generated pets have slightly higher than regular wild tamed (mid-teens for regular species, mid-twenties to thirties for fableds), while enhanced and mystical essences, and starter pets, are higher than that (high teens, twenties for regulars, fableds are 30s-40s)

> exclusive pets have at base double the normal tamed stats of their species for HP and s/i/d/a, and 120 mana. if it's an exclusive theme made via festival activity (eg, sylesti ice sculpting), they can be increased while it's in progress, both via using a specific kind of item, and via the Bonus

> When you breed pets and get an eggling, it will have stats randomly anywhere between the parents stats (eg, parent1 has 12 str, parent2 has 15, baby could have a str of 12, 13, 14, or 15)

> when a sylesti is hatching you can increase its hp by 20 (the 'let it hatch on its own' button on the popup), randomly increase one of s/i/d/a by 1 ('help it hatch' option), or use a stat philter (select which one with the dropdown, then the 'use selected philter' button)
Hatchlings can further get their stats raised, getting +1 to their lowest stat (or +20 for hp) for every 8 nurtures the pet gets (which can stack up to a pretty impressive amount of stat gain


Grove stats on wild caught lg pets have ranges that they fall in based on pet rarity, and if the pet is themed or not, or if it was obtained as an unthemed forest/cavern eggling, themed forest/cave eggling, or temple eggling. The highest possible is leg and myth themes, which can get as high at +75 (here's a legendary lg theme as example, though he doesn't have any +75s)- temple eggs have the next highest + stat bracket, capping at +60 (example temple egg pet)


LG themes with good lg wild stats are I think fairly desirable as breeders and can have fees in the tens-of-thousands, but other than that I have no real clue. Most regular breeding pets are usually up for under 5k? There's a lot of 1g, 2g, 3g etc ones. Like, a LOT a lot. tens of thousands. Breeding fees are not a very good way to make gold, if that's what you're after
Eid0lon
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 8:57 PM Post #9
Well its a mix of that, selling pets, and level 50 missions from the sanctuary of saerielle. But yeah my friend tried to explain that to me too and honestly it still is lost on me. I just use the sylestis they tell me to use in my party if Im being honest. Put I think I may stick with the base 1k, added 100 for every vis/hid and and extra 50 for carried for selling, but thank you for your help.
Scathreoite
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Posted: 4/21/2022 at 9:51 PM Post #10
Do you have all six mission slots unlocked? If not, and you're looking to make gold, then that's what you want to do.

Missions are pretty simple to know what you need, you just set up 5-10 pets (depending on if you're only doing lv50 sanctuary missions, or if you're also doing either lv25 esior missions or lv45 sanctuary missions), with all their points and equips oriented towards one stat.
eg, pet for sanctuary mission "Patrolling the Garden", the Health mission- you put all proficiency in HP, and any good equips. For Sanctuary mission "Change of Plans", you want Agility, so you have a pet where all the prof points are in Agi, and equipped with Illusionist or Assassin gear.

If you run just six lv50 missions a day with pets that can pull an 'exceptional' result each time, that's something like 60-65k payout (mission pay + satchel drops), which is. rather a lot more than whatever payout breeding fees manage to pull, I'd expect


Also, with that price-style for selling, you're suggesting selling a 6v pet for 2200 which... not a great pricing for 6v? I'd lean towards a bare minimum of +1k per vis, if selling, really? (and even then I'd personally say that 7k is also way too low of a price for a 6v, especially if it were a pb 6v)
(since breeding for traits takes months. However, you definitely don't expect a pb of a tamed theme that's bred for traits only to fetch the same price as a pb max stat, which typically fetch 250k on the lower end)
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