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Amarok
Level 75
Terrifyingly Thrifty
Joined: 4/17/2015
Threads: 105
Posts: 2,892
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 9:11 AM Post #1
Some people and I would like to map out the number of battles required in order to find a Pyromaniac that are roaming about the Astryl's Vale zones.

In order to do this we need a lot of data to find the parameters (or how many battles it takes for the Pyromaniac encounter chance to reach 99%). So I would like to ask the community to add their data here, if they have been collecting it, or to start collecting data.

How to collect the data:

It is very easy! After you have defeated a pyromaniac boss, go to your profile, and write down the number of battles. Then, find the the next pyromaniac, defeat it, and record the new amount of battles on your profile page.

Note that: logging out, or leaving the zone does not reset the counter. ~ Image provided by Theafy



You don't need to write out your calculations, i've just provided mine as an example. If you have a (good) approximation of the amount of battles, that is also fine. Here's the example:

Amarok: 41,790 -> 41,959. (41,959 - 41,790 = 169). 169 battles

Old parameter was between 25 - 922 battles

Old x2 Parameter was between 3 - 686 battles.

Current Parameter is between 4 and 623 battles (or 923 including the insane * outlier).

Old data (pre change)

Sweetsnowsparkles: 25 - 30
Arkhantha: 40
Absoluteinsanity: 50
Jennysyc: 100 - 150
Arkhantha: < 200
Amarok: 169
Amarok: 471
Absoluteinsanity: 500
Luxa: 650
Absoluteinsanity: 800
Nebulacrash: 922

New (old) Data

Absoluteinsanity: 3
KaliOfDarkness: 11
KaliOfDarkness: 36
Sweetsnowsparkles: 19
Sweetsnowsparkles: 34
Rikaheart: 42
GoldGryphon: 61
Tesalyne: 88
Seagold: 100
Rixva: 104
Absoluteinsanity: 113
Rixva: 119
Amarok: 124
SpaceElf1: 157
Amarok: 172
GoldGryphon: 178
Seagold: 182
Seagold: 182
Absoluteinsanity: 194
GoldGryphon: 233
Amarok: 250
Jennysyc: 325
Seagold: 325
Vineyiea: 335
Vineyiea: 348
Luxa: 396
Absoluteinsanity: 418
Savynn: 419
Seagold: 430
Somneli: 466
Tesalyne: 625
Seagold: 662
Rixva: 686

New Data x2

Jennysyc: 4
Savynn: 9
Monstercatgirl: 12
Tesalyne: 14
Tesalyne: 21
Seagold: 22
Tesalyne: 22
Angelsblue: 22
Seagold: 25
Ley: 35
Theafy: 38
Angelsblue: 45
Jennysyc: 46
Seagold: 49
Seagold: 52
Theafy: 56
Seagold: 60
Angelsblue: 61
Seagold: 61
Seagold: 61
Seagold: 62
Alchemy: 68
Angelsblue: 69
Adelaide424: 75
Jennysyc: 76
Tesalyne: 82
Seagold: 88
Adelaide424: 96
Luxa: 100
Seagold: 101
Angelsblue: 106
Seagold: 106
Kalores: 109
Angelsblue: 110
Tesalyne: 110
Angelsblue: 112
Seagold: 113
Seagold: 114
Seagold: 118
Seagold: 120
Seagold: 121
Lostlupo: 124
Seagold: 141
Jennysyc: 143
Tesalyne: 144
Kalores: 145
Tesalyne: 145
Seagold: 154
Angelsblue: 154
Angelsblue: 154
Tesalyne: 160
Hopeless: 163
Kalores: 166
Seagold: 175
Ley: 176
Deidriel: 177
Absoluteinsanity: 178
Tesalyne: 182
Angelsblue: 183
Deidriel: 196
AliceHearts: 200
Seagold: 201
Savynn: 203
Kalores: 206
SpaceElf1: 206
Theafy: 207
Morkko: 210
Keys: 219
Angelsblue: 219
Tesalyne: 219
Seagold: 228
SpaceElf1: 230
Kalores: 237
Seagold: 238
Seagold: 240
Seagold: 245
Savynn: 246
Tesalyne: 246
Ebonyflicker: 264
Seagold: 270
Monstercatgirl: 278
Luxa: 292
Monstercatgirl: 303
Adelaide424: 309
SpaceElf1: 327
Tesalyne: 365
Ley: 367
Tesalyne: 370
Tesalyne: 383
Savynn: 419
Tesalyne: 422
Angelsblue: 429
Theafy: 443
Luxa: 447
Seagold: 459
Theafy: 500
GoldGryphon: 530
Wander: 623
Savynn: 923*
Edited By Amarok on 7/6/2017 at 7:02 AM.
Jennysyc
Level 75
Warden of Umbra
Joined: 7/1/2016
Threads: 22
Posts: 757
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 9:31 AM Post #2
Found mine after 100-150 battles, I think.
Ephemeral
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 11/29/2016
Threads: 168
Posts: 4,858
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 10:01 AM Post #3
Found one after 30ish battles
Absoluteinsanity
Level 71
Gingerbread Architect
Joined: 7/14/2014
Threads: 43
Posts: 908
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 10:45 AM Post #4
Instead of pinging you every time I'll probably just re-edit this post if that's okay.

- 694 battles

These next ones are after the spawn rate adjustment:

- 418

- 194

- 3

- 113
Edited By Absoluteinsanity on 7/1/2017 at 1:09 PM.
SpaceElf1
Level 75
Ghost Writer
Joined: 9/17/2014
Threads: 710
Posts: 13,316
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 12:22 PM Post #5
Old Data:

Encountered my second Pyro after approximately 200 battles, but take that with a grain of salt.

I'm writing my current total here, so I can find it easily when I locate the next Pyro.

88,248

Also, are you certain that logging out doesn't re-set the counter? It used to do that.


Edit: Currently up to 88,472 and still no Pyro.

Edit #2: Moments after entering Astryl's Tranquillity this afternoon--Pyro! The exact same one I encountered as my second Pyro (I checked). Battles now = 88,629

88,629 - 88,472 = 157 battles between Pyros

Drops: A Pyromaniac's Cap (Patriotic), which I already had, and a Blazing Fireworks Sylvorpa egg!



"Free" Pyro:

Edit #3 (July 3rd around 1:30 am): Exact same Pyro as before. However, this is the first Pyro I found after Krin announced, "I went ahead and increased the base encounter rate for the Maniacal Pyromancer and then also adjusted it so for everyone's first attempt at an encounter of the named, they will start at the max bonus.
Since I couldn't really differentiate for already existing bonuses, I also just maxed everyone's current encounter bonus."

88,703 - 88,629 = 74 battles between Pyros.

You have found an item: [Pyromaniac's Hair Band (Smoldering)]! But no egg.



New Data:


Edit #4: July 3rd around 8 pm. Yet another Pyromaniac's Cap (Patriotic) and no egg. Battles total 88,933.

88,933 - 88,703 = 230 battles between Pyros.


Edit #5: July 5th at about ten minutes until 2 am. "You have found an item: [Pyromaniac's Hair Band (Smoldering)]!" No egg. Battles now stand at 89,260.

89,260 - 88,933 = 327 battles between Pyros. That was a long dry spell.


Edit #6: July 6th at about 3:25 am. "You have found an item: [Pyromaniac's Kobold Assistant (Dax)]!" No egg. Battles now stand at 89,466.

89,466 - 89,260 =206 battles between Pyros.


Edit #7: July 7th at 2:32 pm. "You have found an item: [Pyromaniac's Sparkler Torch (Patriotic)]!" No egg. Battles now stand at 89,753.

89,753 - 89,466 = 287 battles between Pyros.


Edit #8: July 7th at about 8:45 pm. Got a BF Faelora egg and a hat. Battles now stand at 89,875.


89,875 - 89,753 = 122 battles between Pyros.


Edit #9: July 8th, 5 pm. Got a Qitari egg and a hat. Battles now stand at 90,211.

90,211 - 89,875 = 336 battles between Pyros.



Edit #10: July 9th, 5:58 pm Got a Zolnixi egg and Goggles. Battles now stand at 90,446.

90,446 - 90,211 = 235 battles between Pyros.
Edited By SpaceElf1 on 7/9/2017 at 6:04 PM.
Seagold
Level 70
The Hallowed
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 75
Posts: 3,274
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 1:20 PM Post #6
Going to edit this post as I encounter Pyros c: And also putting my battle numbers here so I don't forget xD (All battles after encounter rate adjustment)

Before the adjustment, I encountered 6 pyros within a span of around 9 hours.

Old Data

7/1
128,865-128,965= 100 (Lup egg and Kobold)
128,966-129,396= 430 (Recolor wings)
129,397-130,059= 662 (Goggles)

7/2
130,060-130,385= 325 (Garb)
130,386-130,568= 182 (Aur egg and Cap)
130,569-130,751= 182 (Cap)

130,752-131,274= 522 (Hair Band)
*note: I was at 506 battles until Krin changed up the encounters again; everything after this point is with the changes


New Data


131,275-131,514= 239

7/3
131,515-131,974= 459 (Recolor wings)
131,975-132,215= 240 (Cap)
132,216-132,322= 106 (Fae egg and Torch)
132,323-132,385= 62 (Lune egg and Hair Band)
132,386-132,499= 113 (Goggles)
132,500-132,588= 88 (Lup egg and Cap)
132,589-132,611= 22 (Garb)
132,612-132,840= 238 (Recolor hair band)
132,841-132,901= 60 (Hair Band)
132,902-132,927= 25 (Cap)

7/4
132,928-133,029= 101 (Kelp egg and Wings)
133,030-133,148= 118 (Cap)
133,149-133,290= 141 (Goggles)
133,291-133,536= 245 (Torch)
133,537-133,589= 52 (Mork egg and Wings)
133,590-133,711= 121 (Aur egg and Cap)
133,712-133,866= 154 (Cap)
133,867-134,095= 228 (Cap)
134,096-134,216= 120 (Wings)

7/5
134,217-134,392= 175 (Kobold)
134,393-134,454= 61 (Cap)
134,455-134,656= 201 (Wings)
134,657-134,718= 61 (Torch)
134,719-134,768= 49 (Torch)
134,769-134,883= 114 (Hair Band)
134,884-135,154= 270 (Vul egg and Kobold)

After Ama's 7/6/2017 at 7:02 AM compilation

7/6
135,155-135,308= 153 (Torch)
135,309-135,439= 130 (Cap)
135,440-135,670= 230 (Kelp egg and Torch)
135,671-135,904= 233 (Cap)
135,905-135,934= 29 (Goggles)
135,935-136,174= 239 (Lune egg and Kobold)
136,175-136,254= 79 (Goggles)
136,255-136,458= 203 (Recolor Hair Band)

7/7
136,459-136,536= 77 (Garb)
136,537-136,570= 33 (Goggles)
136,571-136,779= 208 (Wings)
136,780-136,789= 9 (Cap)
136,790-136,927= 137 (Recolor Wings)

7/8
136,928-137,093= 165 (Wings)
137,094-137,415= 321 (Torch)
137,416-137,498= 82 (Garb)

7/9
137,499-137,681= 182 (Cap)
137,682-137,831= 149 (Cap)
137,832-137,904= 72 (Garb)
137,905-138,187= 282 (Lune egg and Torch)
138,188-138,369= 181 (Recolor Goggles)
Edited By Seagold on 7/10/2017 at 12:01 AM.
Ephemeral
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 11/29/2016
Threads: 168
Posts: 4,858
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 1:24 PM Post #7
34 more battles till my next maniac :D
Kalores
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 8/11/2013
Threads: 110
Posts: 3,543
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 1:32 PM Post #8
Alrighty, I shall record her all of my encounter data.

This number is partially affected by Krin maxing the encounter rate. Part of it was after the first change, and then I fought around 5 times once he maxed the encounter rate for the first encounter.

-270 battles (in between changes)



All encounters after final change:
-206
-166
-145
-109
-237
-277
-150
-2
-156
(163800)
Edited By Kalores on 7/9/2017 at 3:40 PM.
Ephemeral
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 11/29/2016
Threads: 168
Posts: 4,858
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 2:06 PM Post #9
19 more battles/encounters with battle peoples (I wuz too lazy to fight some really ugly pets so)
Luxa
Level 75
Majestic Brewmistress
Joined: 9/1/2015
Threads: 100
Posts: 1,282
Posted: 7/1/2017 at 3:19 PM Post #10
650 for my first Pyro, with about 450 before Krin's change.



Edit:

2nd pyro after change, 396 battles
Edited By Luxa on 7/1/2017 at 9:48 PM.
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