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Forum Index > Q&A (Newbie Friendly) > Blocking users?
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Jinxisme
Level 66
Candy Dispenser
Joined: 9/22/2018
Threads: 6
Posts: 11
Posted: 4/16/2021 at 2:03 PM Post #1
Hey y'all.

I've been on this website for quite a while and I've never met a user that I couldn't handle up until recently. This user's name is Blaise and they claim to be someone who helps with the pet market economy and whatnot. They buy my pets and release them even though I explicitly say that I'd prefer my pets to not be released after purchasing them. I even contacted this user and expressed my concerns and they said that our gameplay styles are at an impasse and that they won't change their gameplay style, which is fine, but I asked them if they could take their "business" elsewhere, and they have not. I am now basically unable to enjoy this game because of this problem.

I pride myself on my low prices so that way players, new or old, can buy my pets for extremely cheap. I have a lot of pets I sell at a time, too, and I'd like to see those pets get used by other people, not seeing the "this pet has been released." message. It frustrates me to no end and I would like to block this person in hopes that they will be unable to see my profile and purchase my pets.

While it is their coins that they are wasting, it is still infuriating for me to find out that my pets, that I could've worked very hard on, have been released because of someone who claims to care about the inflation and economy of this game. It is a game, and pixels. It doesn't need to be monitored by anyone except the site admins, and I'm pretty sure this user hasn't been dubbed by the site admins as someone who needs to take care of the pet market economy. If I need to raise my prices because of this user then it'll upset me because i'm barely getting any coin out of this as is but still keeping my prices low so people with less money than me could buy my pets and use them to make a profit of their own, but with this user releasing my pets as well, i'm also getting no pleasure out of seeing my pets being used.

TL;DR:
I need help blocking someone because they are persistent in doing something that effects my gameplay style, even after I spoke to them and voiced my concerns. They will not stop or at least take themselves elsewhere.
Xedite
Level 71
The Perfectionist
Joined: 12/16/2019
Threads: 54
Posts: 3,984
Posted: 4/16/2021 at 2:18 PM Post #2
Blocking players on site will not stop them from buying and releasing your pets, sorry to say. There is a group of users on site that tend to buy pets at certain prices and release them to assist the in-game economy and keep rarity for some traits intact, especially on themed pets and you are likely dealing with one of those people. (and no, the admins do not get involved with this outside of officially stating it is well within the rules for someone to do this as it is a point of contention with a good amount of people on site despite being part of an intentional game mechanic to release pets when you hit the Lost Grove)

I won't get into the details of pet site economies, but some alternatives you could try instead of raising your prices are gifting pets to new users, especially ones who post in player introductions, or hosting pet giveaways. You could alternatively try selling your pets via the forums and setting pets for sale only to individual users to bypass being targeted by anyone playing the game differently than you.
Edited By Xedite on 4/16/2021 at 2:20 PM.
Jinxisme
Level 66
Candy Dispenser
Joined: 9/22/2018
Threads: 6
Posts: 11
Posted: 4/16/2021 at 2:27 PM Post #3
Okay, Thank you!

I'll see if I can change my selling method that way this person will hopefully leave me alone. It's really been aggravating seeing their name pop up in my overview knowing that they are purchasing my pets and releasing them.
Cian
Level 75
The Kind-Hearted
Joined: 6/15/2014
Threads: 142
Posts: 16,049
Posted: 4/17/2021 at 9:36 AM Post #4
Somthing to keep in mind is that they may not actively trying to target you, if they are looking to clean by age or specific traits the advenced search will give them a list of every pets avalable within the search frame, if they releass them all it is possible that multiples pets you breed / set for sale get cleared out. From experience i can tell that excluding a specific player's pets from this kind of research is at best difficult and at worst extremely time consuming, while some releasser may accept to do it most dont as the process can multiply the pet clearing time from 10-20 minutes to several hours depending of how many pets they have to go through. ^-^
Edited By Cian on 4/17/2021 at 12:10 PM.
Danithegoat
Level 72
The Sweet Tooth
Joined: 2/2/2019
Threads: 45
Posts: 1,440
Posted: 4/17/2021 at 11:16 AM Post #5
Quick question: How does releasing affect your gameplay style? They aren't your pets after they buy them... >_>

Also I'd advise against contacting people about releasing..

(please don't hate me)
Also please don't like, attack me, I don't need that, thanks.
Edited By Spiritbeast on 4/17/2021 at 11:22 AM.
Jinxisme
Level 66
Candy Dispenser
Joined: 9/22/2018
Threads: 6
Posts: 11
Posted: 4/19/2021 at 1:04 PM Post #6
It's just that I've spent time breeding Sylestis and I'd like to see them get used so I know my time isn't being wasted. Also, I spend lots of money trying to breed some of my pets with other people's pets so it also consumes some of my money which could be going into better things like health potions or stables/stablehands.
Danithegoat
Level 72
The Sweet Tooth
Joined: 2/2/2019
Threads: 45
Posts: 1,440
Posted: 4/19/2021 at 1:13 PM Post #7
But you still get the gold when they buy the pet...?

Also if people want to release pets, you can't really say anything to them since it's against the pet sale rules...
Edited By Spiritbeast on 4/19/2021 at 1:14 PM.
Imperium
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 8/21/2013
Threads: 386
Posts: 5,309
Posted: 4/19/2021 at 3:38 PM Post #8
To answer your original question, you can only block a user from sending a pm to you and only after they've actually sent one to you. As others have stated, this user is most likely not specifically targeting you but is using the advanced search function to find pets within a specific range of gold coins for public sale to buy and release. This player is doing what they believe to be the best for the site at their own expense. They are not telling you or commanding you in any way to play a certain way, please be respectful and do the same.


I'd recommend in the future not mentioning names of players you're painting in a negative light in your posts/profile that could be used to specifically target another player. Just be vague and say "another player", otherwise it comes across as defamation or an invitation for other players to specifically harass the named player.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=97679&page=1#6
Author: Jinxisme
Time Posted: 4/19/2021 at 1:04 PM
It's just that I've spent time breeding Sylestis and I'd like to see them get used so I know my time isn't being wasted. Also, I spend lots of money trying to breed some of my pets with other people's pets so it also consumes some of my money which could be going into better things like health potions or stables/stablehands.


In response to this, you're selling pets for 100g. A new player CAN make 30k gold an hour easily if they do their research and are willing to put some work in. When I first started, I spent an hour a day nurturing and was able to sell lesser genetic mutators from the scale shop for 100k each (they used to be worth that much!) and a new player can still use that same method for the much more popular and cheaper lesser pet dye option (these fluctuate between 25k-70k on the market). It's even easier to nurture now~ a seasoned player who nurtures can probably easily do 2k-3k scales in an hour. Stablehands are incredibly cheap. As for health potions? I won't tell you what to spend your gold on but I can advise that you can get plenty of those via mission pouches (unless you're talking about the Lost Grove - that place is admittedly rough but you can ask for advice if you need it/feel it's getting too pricey.)


Feel free to skip the following if you really don't care about how pets can actually sell with careful breeding.

I personally don't believe buying and releasing pets does anything and I do think it's a waste of time and just causes a lot of grief between players BUT I'm not going to tell someone they can't and shouldn't do it. The pet economy is more then just supply and demand. It comes down to good breeding practices and pet designs. To best show this, I'm going to link Duchess here~ she's had 42 offspring altogether with a matching male, Duke.

These two Zolnixi are tamed legendaries from the scale shop (rough guesstimate 2200 scales each - about 2 hours worth of nurturing), they were each given a Greater Genetic Mutator (150k each) and they each had their colors dyed to match (10 dyes each minimum - not including AC because it didn't used to exist- or 300k each/4-5 hours nurturing each for LPD's). Technically, you don't even have to dye all the colors, just whatever traits will be visible~ i just do because it'll bug me otherwise. These pets aren't themed but their offspring always sell, usually immediately, after I put them up for public sales. I used to sell them all for 50k each (fertile) before I started doing the 5k/pVis, 1k/pC method so OS is now between 17k and 25k. I'm certain I could still sell them for 50k each. Some of these even at 50k were purchased by new players, at 17k-25k they're still affordable~ So, 42 offspring - one that I never out up for sale because I forgot - 11 born after the new sale method - 30 sold at 50k each before that. Just that 30 that sold was 1,500,000g, that more then covers the minimum 900k gold it took to get them set up.

These are not themed pets. They have the abysmal beginner/tamed stats. They're not even 6-vis pets! They do well though because of all of the following combined: 1.) Popular Species - Zolnixi (how often do you think Zolnixi for sale is looked up? A lot~) , 2.) Popular Traits - Ocelot (guaranteed every time) with a multitude of popular or well sought after traits (Steampunk Outfit, Chow Tail), 3.) Palette - They're pretty - so much so that players were and are willing to buy them. Because they're pretty and they cost a pretty penny out of the 41 purchased throughout the years only 4 or 5 have been released (if I counted right)

This boyo is the only one who hasn't sold yet and only because I forgot to list him. With 3 visible traits and 2 carried I would list him for 17k and he'd probably sell pretty quickly if I tossed him up onto the sales forum/public~



I could probably sell him for 50k but I'm not going to. I want to them to be more affordable to newer users but not so cheap that they'll just be discarded. I'm all for helping newer players but I don't like gifting pets until I can see that they're actually putting effort into the game.
Edited By Imperium on 4/20/2021 at 8:28 AM.
Sp00ns
Level 75
Fancy Pants
Joined: 2/4/2019
Threads: 75
Posts: 1,728
Posted: 4/19/2021 at 5:17 PM Post #9
I personally don't release sylesti's until I've had them for a month or two, but that's just the way I do it, and even then I've still gotten insulting messages about how I shouldn't have released 'their' sylesti despite 2+ months of ownership.
The best way you can avoid it is to sell directly to another player, or place in your bio a short message that you don't want specific sylesti's released (Like high leveled, themed, project pet, generated pet).
 
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