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Forum Index > Q&A (Newbie Friendly) > Battle help? (Bosses)
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Bluejaysfeather
Level 69
Joined: 5/19/2021
Threads: 2
Posts: 9
Posted: 5/21/2021 at 6:50 PM Post #1
I've bounced a few elements through my team and finally settled on earth/light/fire, and light's constant low-level healing (plus sometimes better heal) has made my team a lot sturdier, but not sturdy enough to tank for huge numbers of rounds that are seemingly needed for both fest bosses and the bosses in the nightfall bandit dungeon. I've gotten some good gear drops (especially from the one nightfall bandit boss I managed to defeat somehow), but do I need to just bite the bullet and shell out for more from somewhere? Or do I have an element/stat allocation problem? Thanks :D
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 91
Posts: 4,302
Posted: 5/21/2021 at 7:15 PM Post #2
Light healer should have 2int not 1hp/1int (HP is generally what one would consider as a Tank prof- some people do use it on other pets in their lv70 grove teams, but not most people), or possibly 1int/1dex, but I'd sat 2int at this level, since her having steady higher heals will be more useful than the chance of higher heals.
Also, on a light healer you want to go with Evoker (int/dex) rather than illusionist (int/agi)- Agility is, as HP, a Tank stat, boosting Defence and Evasion, wheras Dexterity boosts Accuracy and Critical Hit rate (despite agility being called 'agility', both it and dex control the speed of a pet equally

The equips are also quite low level+rairty- I'd suggest getting lv25 legendary equips for the whole team

Hrovion's profs should be fine (I don't remember what my own earth tank had at that level, probably 1str/1agi, but I'm not a very hp-stat-oriented person with my tanks, and mine also has much higher base stats).
The relics on these pets are especially letting them down- uncommon equips are frankly trash compared to all the other rarities, at any level.

Aireraume should be fine, definitely suggest investing her third prof point, when she gets it, into dex, so she's 2int/1dex, since for fire and air pets critical hits are needed to inflict of the debuffs of their base attack
You'll want full Evoker on her.


Since this is specifically asking about bosses, I will note that since the fest zone bosses are always a single enemy, fire isn't the best attacker enemy for using against them. Fire specializes in cumulative spread damage, so is most effective when there's three enemies. Air is the one for single-target damage.
Somneli wrote up the stats of some of the bosses here that you can glance at (these are the stats of the bosses at lv70, so they're quite a bit higher than they would be for your team, but the spread would be the same. HP would be a LOT lower, though, since all enemies get a dramatic hp boost at lv60+)
Bluejaysfeather
Level 69
Joined: 5/19/2021
Threads: 2
Posts: 9
Posted: 5/21/2021 at 10:47 PM Post #3
Thanks! I might see if I can catch another leveled pet so I can swap between fire and air then. Some of the bosses in the dungeon come in threes so I'll probably keep fire around for that. And yea I was afraid you were gonna say that about buying gear XD but ig better stuff would probably also offset losing the point into health. I wasn't too sure about points and had just been going off the recommended stats, so it's good to know the actual best uses

Also definitely will try going after the easier bosses on there lol, I'd mostly been assuming the earlier ones in the zone would be easier and that doesn't look to be the case

At least I found some chests earlier and will be able to afford changes though
Bluejaysfeather
Level 69
Joined: 5/19/2021
Threads: 2
Posts: 9
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 12:31 AM Post #4
Bought a couple things (and moved over that stat point from health to int) and that got me to where I could kill off some bosses for more gear, thank you again for the help :D not quite fully fixed up yet but now I'm to where I can get the stuff
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 91
Posts: 4,302
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 2:27 AM Post #5
The "recommended" stats in the elements page isn't really what most people use since it's just really obsessed with HP.

Fire/Air Attackers + Light Healers/water buffers at lv70: 3offense/2dex, with gear oriented towards their offensive stat and dex.
Evoker/Pyromancer for fire/light, myrmidon/storm caller for air/water (I assume, for water buffers- I've never actually used one)

Shadow Tanks and Light Tanks, Illusionist/ Reaver / Lightbringer (although you can also run a light tank that's set up like a healer, if you know what you're doing well enough and the pet is set up/statted well enough) and a mix of HP/offense/Agi profs
Water and Earth Tanks use Assassin/ Tidal Lord/ Warden equips- Water leans to Str more because the strength of their absorbtion shields is based on it, Earth leans to Agi more since their main thing is Taunting opponents into attacking them specifically.
Tank proficiencies vary by user's style and by the pets themselves based on things like their base stats, so I can't just say "this way is the best way for x element tank"- I run the two water tanks I have differently because they have different base stats, and I'm pretty sure my earth tank is proffed differently from most, but it works well for me so it's fine.

I'm glad you're seeing some improvement! It is a bit of a learning curve, getting into sylestia battles, and just a bit of knowledge can carry you a long way.


A good way to get supplies- gold, healing items, equipment to be used or sold- is missions. It'll mean you don't have to worry so much about spending gold to get good equips when you need to!
If you know how to do missions properly to get an Exceptional completion each time- or near enough to- then you're getting double rewards for each one, which really adds up (see guide to mission pets and missions. You can also check out Mission Science (a study) for a look at the kinds of payouts missions have (and if you'd like to contribute any info, you can pm it to us, since the thread is currently locked- we may make a guide at some point, and I can't fill in all the blanks, since for one thing my reputation with the towns is maxed out, so I can't see what increase in them any given mission makes)
Mysticfoxwolf
Level 40
Fancy Pants
Joined: 3/2/2021
Threads: 22
Posts: 373
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 7:40 AM Post #6
Some other suggestions I use, (This does not work on lvl 70s though) is to level up 10 levels at a time, until you have an equal amount of power. (The bosses are overpowered, and so are high levels) This is how I defeated Cereth, and right now (Lvl 32) I'm doing it on lvl 20 Thunder and Bolt.
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 91
Posts: 4,302
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 8:05 AM Post #7
@Mysticfoxwolf, this was a question about bosses in the festival zone, and fest bosses, like all other enemies in the fest zone, match to the highest level in your party.
Also, looking at your stables, you only seem to have one pet that's actually levelled and in your party (it's somewhat expected difficulty-curve-wise that you unlock your second slot as soon as you finish the tutorial, and the third as soon as you get access to sanctuary of saerielle), and she only has one of her two proficiency points assigned, and her gear isn't the right sort for a water tank save one of her bracelets. Compounding on that, with her relic being a Magic Damage type she's not actually able to make use of the boost from it. These might all be reasons why you're finding bosses 'overpowered'.
Mysticfoxwolf
Level 40
Fancy Pants
Joined: 3/2/2021
Threads: 22
Posts: 373
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 8:50 AM Post #8
I'm actually waiting for my pets to be leveled, I found a free leveling service. Usually I have an aurleon on my team, but she's lvl 29 right now.
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 91
Posts: 4,302
Posted: 5/22/2021 at 4:40 PM Post #9
Good to know there is a second party member, though the other points still stand- unassigned prof point, wrong equipment.
I could send you a lv25 legendary Assassin relic for Aqua Pearl, if you'd like? It would make a huge difference for her. Currently she's doing base 52 attack purely because she has the wrong kind of relic. That means bolt, which does '150% damage' (that is, 1.5x the pet's elementally-decided Damage stat), is doing an average of 78 damage to enemies before considering their defences.
If she had a lv25 legendary assassin relic (rather than a lv15 legendary meant for Magic element tank), her base attack would be 191, meaning her average attack output from bolt would be 287 before defence calculations (an increase of more than 3.5x from what she has, just changing one piece of equipment.)

(I'd personally go for 1str/1agi on a water tank's profs, but that's based on my own preferences. You will want to assign the second prof point, though)
Mysticfoxwolf
Level 40
Fancy Pants
Joined: 3/2/2021
Threads: 22
Posts: 373
Posted: 5/23/2021 at 6:44 AM Post #10
ok! (I forgot she had points lol)
 
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