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Faeyla
Level 75
Trickster
Joined: 10/11/2014
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Posted: 9/10/2019 at 11:23 AM
Post #121
Now that I have had a bit of time to calm down, hopefully I can put together a decent post.
Nothing like seeing this ping on my dinner break at work and suddenly feeling panic about all those pets I spent money on possibly going poof because the rules are suddenly being changed at the last minute for no really good reason.
Token hoarding should not be surprising. I knew that would happen strictly due to the changing them into cash mechanism. This is the mechanism that needs to be addressed. I always thought it was a really bad idea. Changing the auto complete for sandbox pets is not addressing that issue at all. In fact, the last minute change in auto completion punishes those of use who have been spending our token on boxes. I would have been better off hoarding my tokens. At least then I would not be worrying about if I could meet this new criteria in order to get my pets.
I am fortunate in that I have not had a huge amount of time to play, so I have a decent stockpile of stuff to use on my boxes. It was not my intent to hoard those, but now I will certainly plan on doing that in the upcoming fests just in case the rules get changed at the last minute again. I would much rather help others out, but not at the cost of losing my own pets.
The number one issue with this change is the timing of it. I have no problem with auto completion having set percentages or even going away all together, IF I know about it from the get go. Frankly looking at the numbers at the last minute and changing the rules is really not the best idea. Changing it right before fest closes is just mean. I am happy I did not have time to play any of the contests because getting a fabled cata at this point would just make me angry.
Savynn
Level 75
Sweet Solver
Joined: 12/18/2012
Threads: 216
Posts: 4,497
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 1:01 PM
Post #122
I've been mostly stuck in the world of nurture leaderboards this fest so I've ended up being really slow to get things done with sculpting but I admit I do almost always procrastinate which I know I shouldn't. I also like just having a good idea of what supplies I have at the end. I can see what I got from the leaderboards ending and plan from there. I also can work some more on gold for converting pearls once the fest is over. I usually spend quite a bit of gold on themed pets, space, and nets during the fest. I have to agree the timing feels harsh and that it also promotes people not wanting to use agents on others' sandboxes. I'm honestly not sure what the best solution would be but I do wonder about what Faeyla said about the issue doesn't really feel like it's getting addressed.
So it comes down to having excess tokens and those tokens being hoarded to be converted into gold later, right? Maybe there could be some other sink for tokens? Come to think of it, could it be worse than usual this time because there weren't any avatar items in the festival shop to buy this time around? Usually I end up buying everything available and then have to continue to use tokens on both boxes and other items. There wasn't really much compelling reasons to actually spend 10k in the shop this time around for me. Retired chests aren't generally very kind to me with generally just throwing me a blue rarity item that I already have and doesn't sell for much. (I know these are great for new players though.) If there was another achievement for getting all tasks done or something then I would have had more incentive. There wasn't any maze or haunted house to enter either with additional tokens, either. You can only move on with fishing with using diamonds or gold. I'm sure I'll want to get the upcoming Haunted House achievement done by entering it so many times which I generally have to use tokens for.
I do apologize if I'm misunderstanding the circumstances of what's going on. Just those are some thoughts I have on it.
Also if you do try to use more of the the idea of having a super achievement for getting all achievements done to try to get people to use up tokens would you consider taking mercy on us for snow wars? Not all of us are as adept at it or enjoy it to the extent that many others do. Maybe have the snow wars achievements more on their own thing or something and have the rest of the achievements have their thing? I know this is two fests away but the thought of having to complete all of the snow war achievements kinda terrify me.
Krinadon
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Site Administrator
Joined: 12/17/2012
Threads: 1,153
Posts: 14,888
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 3:01 PM
Post #123
A couple things. First, just to quickly address Forum Games as I have seen a few concerns about their prizes, we almost always include a Box of Supplies/Agents for rewards with catalysts as well as a couple hundred currency tokens as a participation prize. This would be more than enough to cover the 4 Agents per Catalyst required for auto complete.
As an extra bonus to help alleviate the stress some of you are having over your sculptures - I will run another Pick a Door Series this week/early weekend that will include mostly prizes of Sculpting Agents. I will get the times up and posted ASAP so look for that announcement soon.
Moving forward, I will try and provide clearer insight on these types of changes with more warning and I apologize for any inconveniences caused by this announcement.
FennTheFeral
Level 75
Trickster
Joined: 8/19/2019
Threads: 67
Posts: 2,669
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 3:05 PM
Post #124
Thank you!
AC9123
Level 72
Candy Dispenser
Joined: 3/3/2017
Threads: 147
Posts: 2,417
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 3:05 PM
Post #125
Lol I read your message about Snow Wars, and I do admit that I am very bad at it too XD That's not happening for me...
And I do agree, strangely I had more sun tokens than usual, and I realize it's because I didn't have a background or two to buy. That is probably one reason for the extra tokens this time, but maybe people hoarded during previous fests? For fishing I would have been happy with an option to reset the board using sun tokens as well.
Eighteen
Level 63
The Kind-Hearted
Joined: 4/15/2019
Threads: 73
Posts: 151
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 3:13 PM
Post #126
um,hi,i am kind of new to this game and i have some animals for sale if you want some
Asviloka
Level 70
Ghost Writer
Joined: 3/12/2014
Threads: 89
Posts: 1,888
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 4:48 PM
Post #127
Thank you, Krin. This, along with the outpouring of support from your wonderful community, goes a long way to mitigating the horror of last night's shocking announcement. I know you're only trying to make the game better in the long run, and we really appreciate the pledge for earlier communication of intention in future. :)
Bunne
Level 70
Fancy Pants
Joined: 8/2/2018
Threads: 40
Posts: 862
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 4:56 PM
Post #128
I feel that the 16% rule is pretty fair for auto-completing sculptures, although a little more time would have been beneficial.
For the hoarding tokens thing: I am one of those people that has lots of extra tokens this fest. With no festival shop avi items, and no "token sink" feature this fest, there is only so much I can spend tokens on. If the beach had an option to move locations with tokens, I'd be all over that! As of now, I have more poles/shovels than I can sell or use by the end of fest. I'd happily use tokens to move beaches, similar to the Haunted House or Winter Wonderland features. I only have a couple hundred of those tokens, because I used them as I got them. Unfortunately, I have lots of Spring tokens, as there was no token sink for that fest either.
If you do change something regarding tarnished tokens, please let us know before the next fest if applies to, so we can plan accordingly :) Thanks!
Orcastration
Level 74
Fishy
Joined: 11/1/2018
Threads: 318
Posts: 33,448
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 5:27 PM
Post #129
Thank you!
~orca2whale, desperate to finish all her orcas XD
Ariabella
Level 64
Assistant to the Sculptor
Joined: 8/28/2019
Threads: 5
Posts: 50
Posted: 9/10/2019 at 7:07 PM
Post #130
On a lighter (ish) note, I started here in the latter half of the festival and have to say that I've had an enormous amount of fun with it! Great job! Sylestia feels like a little community of people living in the same town. Everyone is so helpful, polite, and friendly :) I've not played a game that felt like that before.
The only drawback is that the festival is over now....I don't know what to do with myself now when i get here and can't go to Esior's Cove! LOL Can't wait until the next festival :)
In the meantime, I'll have fun exploring and breeding my fluffies as well as finishing my sand sculptures ;)
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