Fox was pointing out it was a crime. Idk if you know this but they work cyber security. Also they would have been warned if they would have started talking about doing it. Doesn't mean that Said partner has done it again or ever will. I don't see that as a threat. I just see it as they Said they live with someone who has seen it from both perspectives. I agree with banning the harrasers. Not so much with those who didn't lower their prices and weren't even let off with a warning dm before getting banned. Unfortunately I can't stick around a site where I can get banned for an offsite opinion either or for venting any sort of frustration. There have also been players who have went against tos that you guys didn't do anything about when it was going on. I'm seeing all sides. I also do think you guys need mods going forward. I have seen a lot of sex rps? Isn't this a kids site? I would direct my kids away from this site. I've seen plenty that even I didn't want to read.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#171 Author: Neytiri875 Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:26 PM Fox was pointing out it was a crime. Idk if you know this but they work cyber security. Also they would have been warned if they would have started talking about doing it. Doesn't mean that Said partner has done it again or ever will. I don't see that as a threat. I just see it as they Said they live with someone who has seen it from both perspectives. I agree with banning the harrasers. Not so much with those who didn't lower their prices and weren't even let off with a warning dm before getting banned. Unfortunately I can't stick around a site where I can get banned for an offsite opinion either or for venting any sort of frustration. There have also been players who have went against tos that you guys didn't do anything about when it was going on. I'm seeing all sides. I also do think you guys need mods going forward. I have seen a lot of sex rps? Isn't this a kids site? I would direct my kids away from this site. I've seen plenty that even I didn't want to read.

fox also stated that someone found some info about krin that was legally posted publicly somewhere and wanted to reach out just to say hey uhh this is easy to find just so you are aware. And they weren't even looking for it.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#172 Author: Neytiri875 Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:27 PM [quote=2699170]fox also stated that someone found some info about krin that was legally posted publicly somewhere and wanted to reach out just to say hey uhh this is easy to find just so you are aware. And they weren't even looking for it.

By initiating so much paranoia with all of this and the clearly vented bad jokes. You have damaged the economy yourselves and its really disheartening. I've loved this site for so long. And it sucks that most of us long time players are wanting to leave because of this. A warning would have been more sufficient. A private warning at that. Instead of so much construed out of context. Yes most of us are adults but I see plenty of young ones around and plenty that has made me a 30 year old woman's eyes want to bleed.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#172 Author: Neytiri875 Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:27 PM [quote=2699170]fox also stated that someone found some info about krin that was legally posted publicly somewhere and wanted to reach out just to say hey uhh this is easy to find just so you are aware. And they weren't even looking for it.

Can you point out where Fox is saying it is a crime and not insinuating to something more sinister? Also, if they wanted to reach out to anyone, wouldn't it make sense to reach out to the person whose info is being shared and not put it in a discord where people are actively hating on said person? I dont have the full context for any of these screenshots which is why I am asking for a bit more info in terms of the conversation as a whole.

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I also want to make it very clear that I'm not looking at this from the price of pets perspective. What is concerning to me is the talk of doxxing and private info sharing

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#174 Author: Rapidbrush Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:41 PM [quote=2699171] Can you point out where Fox is saying it is a crime and not insinuating to something more sinister? Also, if they wanted to reach out to anyone, wouldn't it make sense to reach out to the person whose info is being shared and not put it in a discord where people are actively hating on said person? I dont have the full context for any of these screenshots which is why I am asking for a bit more info in terms of the conversation as a whole. --edit-- I also want to make it very clear that I'm not looking at this from the price of pets perspective. What is concerning to me is the talk of doxxing and private info sharing

I don't remember who discovered it but it wasn't fox. Because krin owns a business some of his info legally has to be public record. Unfortunately it's law. I just saw fox pointing out a fact. Not a threat. Fox objectively can see it from both sides and condones none of it. Soon as they figured out someone was spouting threatening crap that thread was locked down and nobody has access. I have screenshots of ael literally telling people to knock it off about fais insta. Only thing wrong I've seen in venting about crashing the economy which well wouldn't a bunch of cheap new player pets do that? There's no controlling it

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#175 Author: Neytiri875 Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:44 PM [quote=2699174] I don't remember who discovered it but it wasn't fox. Because krin owns a business some of his info legally has to be public record. Unfortunately it's law. I just saw fox pointing out a fact. Not a threat. Fox objectively can see it from both sides and condones none of it. Soon as they figured out someone was spouting threatening crap that thread was locked down and nobody has access. I have screenshots of ael literally telling people to knock it off about fais insta. Only thing wrong I've seen in venting about crashing the economy which well wouldn't a bunch of cheap new player pets do that? There's no controlling it

what I'm seeing is many getting punished unjustly for the acts of the few.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#175 Author: Neytiri875 Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:44 PM [quote=2699174] I don't remember who discovered it but it wasn't fox. Because krin owns a business some of his info legally has to be public record. Unfortunately it's law. I just saw fox pointing out a fact. Not a threat. Fox objectively can see it from both sides and condones none of it. Soon as they figured out someone was spouting threatening crap that thread was locked down and nobody has access. I have screenshots of ael literally telling people to knock it off about fais insta. Only thing wrong I've seen in venting about crashing the economy which well wouldn't a bunch of cheap new player pets do that? There's no controlling it

you can see how the timing of the doxxing message can be seen as the following, right?: X person saying they have Krin's personal info -> Y person saying they live with someone who has been doxxed and has doxxed someone and to do with that info as they will

I dont have the full context for either side, and I want to be clear that I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Just wanted to clarify that here

I was iffy on writing this out because it seems a lot has already been said but there are things that I feel need addressed. The sheer lack of reading comprehension is ridiculous. Though honestly I dont know if thats the issue or if its simply people ignoring what they dont want to see or if they honestly just dont understand the written words (not making jokes, being serious because that is something some people legitimately struggle with.)

This has been taken very immaturely by a lot of people. I was actually contacted on discord because of my post on here (and I dont care if this one gets shown to them or not) and I have since unfriended them because I personally do not want to be caught up in this drama. It was mentioned that I knew people better but as an adult with thirty eight years of life experience I can say otherwise. You never truly know what a person is capable of (especially on the internet). I do not deem anyone guilty or not guilty of thoses not mentioned and my responses are solely based on the evidence given.

This is supposed to be a preteen/teen targeted game so I can understand the immaturity on some levels, but it makes me wonder when I see some of the comments and biased remarks. Speaking to the minors on this site, please take note that you do not fully understand the adult world yet and therefore do not have the experience and knowledge to comprehend how major this could have been and could possibly still be. To you all its one of those it doesnt directly affect me other than my friends are no longer here so please refrain from uneducated comments.

To the older members on site please try to remember that there are a lot of younger people here without the perspective of the reality of what all of this could have entailed and try not to argue over useless topics. This thread was meant to inform and initiate questions, not cause arguments.

Krin, Fae and others did not feel safe and did what they deemed was necessary to not only keep them and their families safe, but to keep other members of Sylestia safe as well and that is what everyone who is arguing against this needs to realize. At the end of the day the well being of each individual is the most important thing and if banning these players was a necessity to reestablish that, then so be it.

There have been some things I have disagreed with over the years that admins have said or done, but this is something I fully support. If you are going to take things into your own hands then be ready to face the consequences. This day and age threats of any sort (joking or not) are taken very seriously. Am I upset that some of these people are gone? Yes but at the same time a lot of what has been spoken of doesnt surprise me in the least. Someone else mentioned a meangirl vibe going on. I felt it, saw it in some instances.

Krin, Fae.. hang in there. I know this is not easy for you and I commend you with being so open and willing to take all of the negative feedback that you guys knew would result from this. You did what you thought you had to do to keep you, your families, and your players safe. For that I thank you.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=105585&page=18#177 Author: Rapidbrush Time Posted: 3/24/2023 at 4:53 PM [quote=2699175] you can see how the timing of the doxxing message can be seen as the following, right?: X person saying they have Krin's personal info -> Y person saying they live with someone who has been doxxed and has doxxed someone and to do with that info as they will I dont have the full context for either side, and I want to be clear that I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Just wanted to clarify that here

with the order the shots are posted in yes. But I also realize that if done it could affect them in real life. Their thing right now is people will believe what they believe there's nothing that can be done about it and they are right. These players some of them who have done nothing have been slandered all through this and there is a such thing as defamation. Good luck.

I'm late to writing here but as someone who just lost all but a few of their sylestian friends in quite literally overnight I just wanna say all of this is bull. No one threatened anyone and if they did they were independent of the server. This was a PRIVATE server btw, with minors, sharing their personal information and things that they only wanted their friends to see. I don't care if Krin says it wasn't him or Fai that went into the server, they still had screenshots and access to things that weren't related to the site, things that should be PRIVATE in a PRIVATE server, UNRELATED to sylestia. Also, Krin just banned some of the biggest names in breeding AND his precious economy. Krin just ruined his own economy. The fact that this happened just makes me sick to my stomach, and you never gave them a warning PM Krin so stop lying.