Since I haven't seen anyone else say it yet, I just want to say I commend your courage in admitting this, and in making and sticking to the choice to do better. That must have been very difficult, especially with so many people encouraging the negative behaviour, and some still trying to defend and excuse it.
I believe you about what you witnessed, and support you, and the other users who have discussed their experiences with this situation.
There have been several more thoughtful comments I agree with, Rixva, Jademeka, Lanfear and Fleuralilly's especially.
Anyway, hopefully the community can soon move on and heal from this unpleasantness.
Just to clarify the timeline a bit, I was in there between August and September of last year. The warnings (and the banning of two people) didn't happen until December.
I do not know how many people got the warning. But, I can guess knowing who the main instigators were. So this odd narrative of people getting no warnings ever is ridiculous. They knew. They had a chance to do better and chose not to.
However, all I experienced from this group was in that small window of time. What happened after, I can only guess at by reading the conversations Krin provided in screenshots.
When I left, I felt the ostracization immediately. There was definitely a group think going on in there, and many of these people were very vocal in the forums and regional chat. When they targeted someone, they were going to make sure your time was miserable and lonely. And it was just so... galling to see them acting friendly and helpful, knowing what they were like behind the scenes.
I will say that since all of them were removed, I've seen regional chat come alive. People who rarely spoke before are filling in the gap.
The one being discussed right now where this happened. Is fox's twitch server.
Many of the same faces I see in those screenshots were the same people, doing the same thing in the Sylestia server. Back in Aug/Sept of -last year-.
I do have an inkling of what I'm talking about here. I'm showing that this is an ongoing issue, and that these people absolutely knew what they were about.
Neytiri875
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Posted: 3/25/2023 at 8:31 AM
Post #246
Yea. And? We have all complained. In a server about people.
Yea. And? We have all complained. In a server about people.
Complaining is one thing. Taking it off the server to actively harass people is quite another.
You speak as if words have no meaning, no consequence. That there's no malice or intent behind them.
But I've seen people egg others on to say something in regional chat. And that person did!
That's not just words anymore, now it's jumped from "just venting" to actually acting on those feelings. And getting cookies and kudos from other members for doing it.
If all of this was just people "venting" you wouldn't have gotten to this point where there had to be bannings. So please, spare us all this argument. It's a disingenuous talking point and you know it.
Neytiri875
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Posted: 3/25/2023 at 8:40 AM
Post #248
I've seen plenty of them tell others to say something. Especially to people begging In chat which. Mind you is a tos violation
I've seen plenty of them tell others to say something. Especially to people begging In chat which. Mind you is a tos violation
You clearly aren't understanding. So I'm going to drop this.
Vineyiea
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Joined: 5/2/2017
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Posted: 3/25/2023 at 8:54 AM
Post #250
The timeline doesn't matter-you still were brave enough to leave and change. However, if people won't believe someone who saw this start, then I doubt they ever will, or even understand why the other players were banned. Looking forward to seeing you here in the future.
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