updated my article

Sure! (also, I scrolled down a bit and saw that you were asking someone else to make a costume for Sadie? Is that for the banner? If so, that's completely fine, that would save me the effort of trying to come up with a good design XD)

yes Kate will be taking care of the costume I just need the banner design made (I can add the katie sprite on my own ^-^)

Expect a little extra bit I'm sticking onto my article.....I forgot that theres a thing called "personal projects" on here.


What's more embarrassing? I'm making my own projects so I should remember XP


(But if I dont get it to u by the end of the weekend just assume my bit is done for the times XP

Alright, I'll see what I can do (it might take me a little while though, I'm a bit busy...)!

Would you mind posting the original again so I can see what I'm trying to do? It quit working right on my device (i think it does that after a certain amount of time after you originally post it)

sorry I'm afraid I wasn't the original creator so I can't actually post the original again (It timed out or whatever on photobucket :/)

but basically it was a blue banner with the words "The sylestia Times" In blocky white letters, then a picture of sadie on the end (which you don't have to worry about)

Alright, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

Thank you! And sorry for the terribly short notice x-x

Did some adding and editing. I will now proceed to collapse from the stress of writing this oversized article, partially on a phone.

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A Plea to Breeders

Hello Times readers! Most of you probably remember me as either the person who wrote about themes the last few months (did you guys even get that far???) or just as the random personorca in the Lost Grove chats or forum who hung around too much. But that's not the point.

I'm here today to talk about overbreeding.

Recently, I was wandering through the Archives and found an interesting piece from several years back. I filed the link away for future reference...until I saw a thread about the economy here in the suggestions box.

In the end a lot of people (including me) started ranting/suggesting on the economy here on Sylestia and ways to improve it. (Thread here: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=80202

But it really took off when the chatter in the Releasers' thread got a little interesting.

So let me first show you the original article.....



The community on this site is astoundingly generous. We welcome newcomers to the site not only with open arms, but with presents. We want everyone to have access to everything. I was given these gifts as a newbie, and I've given them out myself since them. The community is miraculous, and that is a wonderful thing. I only hope as the site grows it stays that way.

However, since I have been doing the monthly economic standing and even before then, I've noticed something that is, to me at least, a little sad. The depreciation of prices on hard to obtain sylestia such as Ny'Venes, Nephinins, and Puffadores.

I can remember distinctly a time, within the first two weeks after my friend and I had discovered this site, a received a phone-call from her (Roe). She was calling to tell me that'd she'd bought a female Ny'Vene for about 200k - a female Ny'Vene! There were only about seven others for sale on the site at that time, and all of them were a good deal more than the female she had bought, which was an untested lady with no visible traits. From then on, she and I monitored the Ny'Venes sales like hawks. I managed to snag an untested, no vis male for 35k, but I was so worried it had been a misprice that I PMed the previous owner to make sure! It wasn't because I was a newbie unaware of prices, as Roe and I, while new to Sylestia, are not new to sites such as Sylestia, but merely that Ny'Venes were rare and hard to obtain.

I can't describe how sad it makes me to see them going for prices little more than those of any regular Sylesti that can be captured in the wild. The same goes for the Puffadore and Nephini - since their release I've monitored the sales on them to track prices and watched as they dropped, and dropped, and dropped. Over-breeding, a distaste for releasing, a desire to price lower to sell quicker, and just the general generosity of the community have made these rare, hard-to-obtain pets that at one point had to be worked toward no more rare than any other species.

I may be alone, but I find that rather sad. It takes away from the excitement of being gifted one of these rare pets, or from finally managing to get one on your own. So this is my plea to breeders, and an oath I'll be taking myself from now on:

I will not price my pets low just because the market for them is low. I want to try and raise the market back up, and it has to start somewhere. I won't sell Puffs for less than the eggs that can be bought in the shop, and the same will go for Ny'Venes. As for Nephinis, I'll likely not price them lower than 100k. I won't add to the depreciation of value. If I have to release them, then so be it. And I also will not flood the market with all my cast-off hatchlings. I'll mark some of the ones I don't want for sale, auction others, and release the ones that don't meet my standards for sale or auction.

I can't honestly say I expect it to happen, but I do hope some other members will join me in refusing to add to the lessening of the value on these hard to obtain species and others as well that I haven't mentioned, such as Lighira and Ryori.
~Article by Selestial



To add on to this, there are the (scary low) selling and breeding prices of themes. Now I'm not totally against that 1-carry rainbow-scaled orca qit going up for a lower-then-usual price (because honestly rainbow looks horrible on those orcas) but seeing that my Frozen Valkyrie pair is only worth around 20k is truly sad. What's worse is seeing that half the time themed pets that are underpriced are slapped those cheap stickers so their owners can get rid of them and in the end unintentionally bring down the worth of the whole theme, be it ryori, luffox, qitari, or aerindini. Even I was able to recently end up with a pretty purple puff that was worth much more then the asking price.

Designers work hard on their themes, and collect many during fest, and it must be scandalizing to see that their hard work is being sold for dirt-cheap prices.

Which leads to another thing: Personal projects. Just relaly pretty pets. There's no worth in them. Breeders just do it for fun or so they can make them max stats. I don't mind the dishwasher pets going up for a few thousand but why the pretty ones? 6vis? Offspring with no infertility philters, which means....unlimited breeding and trashing of someone's hard work (usually including an army of dyes).

So please. Support the call for a breeding tutorial/hatchery setting for limited breeding (at least until you know what you're doing). Don't take out your wraith at that pretty pet getting released by the Releasers on them. And please. Raise the prices just a notch if you price a little low. A few thousand more on that exclusive fabled species won't hurt you and someone who really understands the true worth of the pet will appreciate that you as the original owner also appreciates the pet as well. But if you don't agree with any of the above, that's fine too. Just...please. Let's make the economy of Sylestia a tad more stable for the newbies of tomorrow. Because what we do now...our actions will define the economy of the future.

Some flashbacks to 2013:



~Orca2Whale

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