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SylvarRose
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 4:42 PM
Post #51
Honestly I bred so many 6v lups and stacked my stables full and released so many other babies...I'm kinda super disappointed that I won't really be getting any full regens out of all of that. But, it's just a game I guess. Hopefully I'll at least get a couple decent ones out of it lol
Daylightapparitions
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Majestic Sculptor
Joined: 9/25/2018
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 4:47 PM
Post #52
Um...I don't know anything about this, but to me it makes the most sense to trace the breeding pattern back. Then change each as you go along. But, that seems like it will take a long time and I think that the sooner the better. But, like I said, I know literally nothing about this so...
Squidliy
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Joined: 6/16/2017
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 4:53 PM
Post #53
Yea, I was hoping for my sister to get some full's too. Sadly that seems it isn't the case, but as you said it is just a game.
Fastnatalie1
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:05 PM
Post #54
I don't care either way for Purebred as it won't make too much of a difference on the Lups I care about. (Blazing Firework Lup) As long as it stays a purebred. Changing the A1, A2, and C3 won't effect it too much:
Edit: I read it wrong. It will come with some changes
Before Changes:
After Changes:
I think people should get to choose to re-gen or not re-gen the new changes, at least for the colors.
Edited By Fastnatalie1 on 10/20/2018 at 5:27 PM.
Ladyshannon
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:09 PM
Post #55
Just to reiterate, ALL Lupora will be affected with the following no matter what:
-AC1 will be changed to current EC, as it's generally the current gene accent color used.
-AC2 will be changed to current C3, as it's generally the current mutation accent color used.
-C3 will be changed to current C2, as it's the new mane color that C2 currently is.
-C2 (new stomach color), AC1, and AC2 will all be Re-Gen'able for every single Lupora.
My question about this is what happens if some of the Lupora don't have accent colors or a color in the c2 or c3 spot, what happens then or what options do you have then??
Edited By Ladyshannon on 10/20/2018 at 5:25 PM.
Silverkitsu
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:17 PM
Post #56
I think purebreds should have the option to update to the themed colour scheme or to be regenerated as any other lupora would. Not sure how that would work with the coding though, and if it's one or the other I think regular regeneration would work better because people could then just put the updated themed colours in.
I am one of the people who bred a bunch of 6v lups with the hope of regenerating them, so I would like to see full colour regens even if we can't have full trait shuffles.
Edited By Wavypavy on 10/20/2018 at 5:20 PM.
Ladyshannon
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:23 PM
Post #57
I know most people where looking forward to the new revamp because they believed it would allow them a complete re-gen for their Lupora and they could complete new projects. For me I don't believe giving all Lupora that are not Themed or Purebreds would make the value of them go down. If anything it would make them go up, because the ones who have been working hard to breed 6vis Lupora and hoard them just for this revamp could sell them as re-gen pets or create completely new designs and sell the offsprings.
I did the same thing with the 6vis Lupora.
On one hand I can see why most people are upset or disappointed that the new Lupora revamp will not include a complete Re-gen, because for most all their hard work has basically gone down the drain along with some of their designs for new vis 6 lupora. But on the other hand I can understand how you would not want to do a complete Re-gen for all the lupora. I would suggest giving the players a chance to at least vote on which genes or mutations they would like to see be able to be re-gen.
I believe a full color re-gen would work great for most players. I know it would work for me since most of the lupora I have bought and bred are light colors and I would love to see them have different colors and some with darker colors.
As for the Purebred colors I would suggest any purebred hatched before the revamp launch be able to adjust to the new color schemes and any born after the launch cannot be changed. This way it gives players a mix of old and new color schemes to breed with.
Fastnatalie1
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:27 PM
Post #58
agree
Elise
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The Artistic
Joined: 6/11/2014
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:31 PM
Post #59
I'd rather have a full regen for all levels of essences (traits and colors) at least.
For the themed and PB, the update as was done with the Lunes is the only logical solution, I think. Simple, easy, clean (at least for players).
As for the others... I'm not too happy with the restricted regen possibilities. I agree with others that colors should all be regenerable, but I wish we could also regenerate the traits. I'm not sure why it's now a problem, but not before with the other species... The ''lupora economy'' reason is silly. This is a pet breeding (and RPG) game, not Monopoly. Besides, the prices are determined by the seller, not by an in-game function.
With all that said: I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ALL MY ''NEW'' LUPES!!
Edited By Elise on 10/20/2018 at 5:37 PM.
Xavion
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Posted: 10/20/2018 at 5:31 PM
Post #60
For purebred themes I definitely want the option of updating them the the new color standard. I also highly appreciated how the Lunes were handled, where those that were heavily affected were discussed with you and the breeding community to find something reasonable... Specifically taking my Bottled Moonlight project for an example, the way the Lunes were changed removed the light blue backside from the Lunes, and the gene colors were yellow instead. Totally killed the "moonlight" vibe to it and I was extremely happy to get that back. Other than the Full Moon Lupes I have no major themed projects this time around, but I'm sure there are going to be people looking at the newly added underbelly colors on the lupes and going " o__e I don't like this theme anymore..." depending on how the added color pans out. Dark underbellies I feel will be lookin' really weird, lol.
I'd say make it optional for sure, though. If someone already went through and dyed their themed offspring to an all-new project scheme and suddenly, "tadah! It looks like the theme now :D" I don't think they'd be too happy. (I've done that with other species and the thought of all my dyed Aeri turning back to Blue Lotuses is horrifying...)
As for non-themed lupes... Well, personally I would LOVE to have 200k lupes to completely recolor, but I've only got about 1% of that population, lol. This is what I did with the Ny'vene revamp ages ago. Yes, I had a ton of pets to regen; I still have about 700 remaining, too. But, at least for me, their value was unaffected by the sheer number I had to work with. Infertile maxed stats offspring from them are the same 300k as most of my other projects are. The lupes? If I can fix their colors without spending billions of gold and have such a lovely collection at my disposal, it will be the same. And these values hold long, long after revamp; people still buy offspring from my Ny'vene projects, still have me use my remaining regens to make their designs come to life, and it's all because I was able to take something I had already made strong and turn it into something beautiful. Maybe for some people they'll go about selling lupes like hotcakes and the market will be a mess for a while, but those of us with a good business sense could turn it into something that never loses value. (I never would have been able to afford the themed offspring basis for my other projects were it not for the Ny'vene revamp, and they still help fund the masses of prismatic philters I need to this very day.)
Trait regen, I completely understand you not wanting to do. Just the colors though... As you mentioned some will have up to 5 colors already able to be changed, but getting the rest of the colors to work with those would still take dyes... Given a marginal error range allowing for 30% failed results on dyes, estimate 10 additional dyes needed - 750k worth - to fully design one 6V pet. Changing those 5 colors isn't really going to do much when you're looking at the entire picture...
Now, full color Re-Generations, I am a lot more flexible with. But are you guys wanting 150-200k full color Re-Generations? Or are you wanting specific types of pets? Or specific situations?
Specific situations would be unfair in my opinion there. At first I was thinking "maybe just the 6V?" since they DO use all 12 colors, but then I thought "well, if someone is in the middle of breeding a project and haven't gotten 6V, or even 6-trait yet, what would it do to them..?" I know what it does, it makes things harder, because SOME of your project offspring get to change colors for free, and others still need expensive pet dyes. Forgot what species (think it was Kelpari?) but post-revamp I had to DROP a few projects because I could only change a handful of my breeders and couldn't afford the dyes for the rest.
So... yeah. I wouldn't say no to 200k color resets on the Lupes. If that's what it took I'd be for it, because I know that players like me have spent years working towards this, and I don't think that should go to waste.
Edited By Xavion on 10/20/2018 at 8:08 PM.
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