Okay, so. As a nice reference spot, I'm just going to go ahead and put all the votes for dinnerbone's sketches here.(I also like them very much, so I'm adding myself to the tally) Not pinging krin about this because that seems a tad bit rude.

Tally alone:
12 votes for Dinnerbone's sketches(based off reactions and stuff, including Dinnerbone herself)

Quotes of all the reactions and stuff(in chronological order):

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=3#24 Author: Ayalaatreides Time Posted: 9/20/2019 at 10:10 AM [quote=1832433] I LOVE these sketches! If the official art ended up looking like these I'd be thrilled. The expressions and poses are perfect!

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=3#25 Author: Zalea Time Posted: 9/20/2019 at 10:26 AM [quote=1832433] I absolutly love the postures of these!

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=4#32 Author: Arofawn Time Posted: 9/20/2019 at 12:35 PM I agree with everything scathreoite and dinnerbone said/drew, but i also still have a bit of an issue with the females hind leg. it looks too thin and it sticks out towards us like its broken? it just looks wrong to me, dont know what it is.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=3#30 Author: LonelyRyu Time Posted: 9/20/2019 at 11:40 AM I am liking the new forms however, (please don't hate me) but I agree that the male form lacks that look of..power and looks more..fledgling-like (which could be used for a teen form I suppose) and I like Dinnerbone's sketches..looks much less cartoony then the original and both genders has more of a stance that commands respect.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=4#34 Author: Vampory Time Posted: 9/20/2019 at 6:30 PM I agree with Dinnerbone, they need more regal and fierce traits. However I actually really love the 3 clawed front feet <3 I agree with Scaths point, the males hind back needs to be raised a bit. His pose is sort of static. Fawncatuslover pointed out that the females hind leg looks a bit mangled and I do also agree with that. I think its the way it sticks out and how the thigh is shaped. I would also love to see more of the females back! Its a bit crowded and covered back there.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=5#47 Author: Xavion Time Posted: 9/21/2019 at 5:37 PM [quote=1832433] After seeing these GORGEOUS birdies with the strong, regal poses, the official sketches now look like clumsy little slouch-potatoes whose frames are folding under the weight of their own floof. Dinnerbone's poses are so much better at reading "owl-dragon" since it brings the "dragon" back to the picture. Chests out, chins up, and their heads held high. The male is imposing, commanding of respect and awe! And without looking overly vicious which is perfect. He looks like you'd have to approach with caution, maybe offer a tasty snack and bow your head. The official one looks more.... docile by comparison. Like he may nip at someone but really, he just wants food and belly rubs. As for the female, Dinnerbone's looks a lot more elegant and majestic, even queenly. These poses say "a fearsome species" to me.These give off the "The Nytekrie are very selfish creatures. Self preservation is always their top priority." kind of vibe. And they definitely look more fitting for "Nytekries are built to be a very powerful flying Sylesti." If it isn't too late, yes, please, to the S-shaped necks. I can't unsee this.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=5#48 Author: Mikazukichan Time Posted: 9/21/2019 at 7:31 PM I haven't given my opinion on the nyte sketches as of yet because so many others with a better understanding (and love) for the species have been doing such a good job lobbying for fantastic changes to the sketches. Rather than writing out my own critique (which would not be anywhere near as informed as others), I would like to say "yes please" to Dinnerbone's suggested tweaks to the poses of these pets. I've mostly been ambivalent toward nytes, and that would be set to continue with the current proposed poses. But those arrogant, regal, owl-dragon-esque poses Dinnerbone suggested... the haughty expressions.... I would have to buy six more stables for wanting all of those nytes. Other critiques I agree with: -in the current female pose, that near back leg really does need looking at. It does have a rather distinct look of being broken at the moment because of how it splays out from the body -Scath's ongoing quest to bring back the dimorphism. Maybe this is going to show up in the line art rather than the sketches, but it would be nice to see it return -3 claw vs 2 claw forelimbs: I have no strong feeling on this, but I do agree that two seemed less crowded than three I do think that the idea is coming along nicely for the adults, but some work could definitely still be done. Like Xav, after seeing Dinnerbone's rendition of what this species *could* be, I can't unsee it. I want those haughty, regal, arrogant, slightly dangerous looking owl-dragons that match their description.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=5#49 Author: Ayalaatreides Time Posted: 9/21/2019 at 8:56 PM I know I already commented on this, but I really, really, hope Krin will take a look at Dinnerbone's sketches and take them into consideration. The poses and expressions fit the concept of the Nytekrie so well! Even the name "night-cry" suggests a regal, powerful creature, and Dinnerbone's sketches really convey that.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=5#50 Author: Valishade Time Posted: 9/23/2019 at 5:11 PM [quote=1834154] Honestly same. The official sketches remind me of fluffy barnyard show chickens. And that's not appealing... When I think of this species I always thought of Kulukan or feathered-serpent/dragon. Regal and mysterious, beautiful and powerful. These sketches here really seem to embody that very well. I really love the female pose in this sketch it's really beautiful. I implore the ops to take these sketches into consideration.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=6#53 Author: GoldGryphon Time Posted: 9/24/2019 at 7:13 PM [quote=1832433] I haven't made any comments till now... but after seeing Dinnerbone's sketches.... this is what I think a Nytekrie should look like. The pose is much more predatory looking and the faces have a regal look that complements the rest of the drawing. It brought back what was missing from the last three sketches compared to what we have at the present time. It really makes me think it is an owl/dragon pet!

Will update as more feedback comes in, not completely sure why I've made this but now it's here.


Also not sure what's going on with the numbers next to some of the quotes, but I guess it's fine?

I've completely forgotten how revamps work. Unless I'm wrong, this should be able to re-gen 6 trait points, correct?
Hang on the link didn't work. I'll post it raw instead.
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5160774

Oh dear this is all a bit embarrassing. I really didn't expect those sketches to get so much attention. ^^;;

not everything gets a regen. depends on what genes move or changed. prob wont know until near the end

Only if those traits are viable for regen.

Moon runes and stardust are almost undoubtedly not going to go through any moving or significant change, so they'll likely be Locked (rune Gene slot + added-effects Mutation slot)
There's no telling what might happen with the M1 and M2 slot traits- they're the most likely slots to get regennable traits, considering what a clashing mess they are with eachother at the moment
The G1 and G2 trait slots are a big questionmark, maybe traits will shuffle, maybe not.

So the baby would be, most likely, a max of 4TP regen. 2TP if the Genes don't move, maybe less, if there's no significant change to how one or both of those particular muts that the baby has look/work

Believe I am a little late, but I used my terrible photo editing and digital drawing skills to edit the current sketch into looking like the Dinnerbone ones. The female didnt turn out too well, but thought people might be interested in looking at it.

Oh these are quite nice Ebony! Thank you :)

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=7#66 Author: Asphodels Time Posted: 9/26/2019 at 1:37 AM Believe I am a little late, but I used my terrible photo editing and digital drawing skills to edit the current sketch into looking like the Dinnerbone ones. The female didnt turn out too well, but thought people might be interested in looking at it.

^{sorry, admin, but i think i like dinnerbone's more ^^;}

I really like the female! But I think the males eyes are just a little too squinty (too narrow?)

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=81059&page=1#1 Author: Krinadon Time Posted: 9/19/2019 at 10:16 PM We have made some additional edits to the adult sketches. These will probably be the final posted sketches and from here we'll move onto doing the lineart and shading next. If you want to view the previous thread, you can view that thread here. Please keep in mind that these are sketches, these are NOT lineart. They will be completely redrawn as actual lineart once the sketches are finalized. We have made these sketches a bit more high detail than they would usually be so that we can better translate what's what within the sketch. As a quick example of the difference between a sketch and lineart, here is how feathers would look once they are redrawn as lineart. When providing feedback, please be constructive and courteous with comments directed towards us or other players! Thank you!

These are amazing! How to do people draw like this?