uhm.
The babies look pretty reasonable, though they could stand to maybe have a bit more neck, and maybe the male could stand to be a tad longer in the body with a little bit more haunch muscle.

The adults though...
The anatomy looks all over the place, just. like X's size in relation to Z's size in relation yo Y's size all just seems really off, in each gender alone and compared to each other?

The legs seem really small- like, way too short-, the female's head seems too big (especially in relation to said legs and her paws) and there's something just... off? about the male that I can't put my finger on.

Deeper chests, stronger, longer legs, larger paws? Shorter tails? (I don't think lups getting a large fluffy tail would help much given the number of people who think the lups and nixis looks too similar as is. Certainly not if they're also in front of the bodies, because with that much floofing they completely obscure the hind legs.)


currently their 'skeleton' seems to be roughly this:

I think... maybe something a bit more like

?

The babies r so cuuutteee!

Whoa... I love them and their fluff, especially the males! They were never my favorites, but now I can't help but want 50...

They look awesome!

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=53853&page=8#71 Author: Scathreoite Time Posted: 11/15/2017 at 9:35 PM uhm. The babies look pretty reasonable, though they could stand to maybe have a bit more neck, and maybe the male could stand to be a tad longer in the body with a little bit more haunch muscle. The adults though... The anatomy looks all over the place, just. like X's size in relation to Z's size in relation yo Y's size all just seems really off, in each gender alone and compared to each other? The legs seem really small- like, way too short-, the female's head seems too big (especially in relation to said legs and her paws) and there's something just... off? about the male that I can't put my finger on. Deeper chests, stronger, longer legs, larger paws? Shorter tails? (I don't think lups getting a large fluffy tail would help much given the number of people who think the lups and nixis looks too similar as is. Certainly not if they're also in front of the bodies, because with that much floofing they completely obscure the hind legs.) currently their 'skeleton' seems to be roughly this: I think... maybe something a bit more like ?

I agree with Scath. The anatomy at first glance looks...off. I think the chins and jawlines of the adults could be thicker, as well as their legs. Lupora should be more akin to wolves than foxes - so sturdier legs, more powerful chests.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=53853&page=5#44 Author: SpaceElf1 Time Posted: 11/15/2017 at 7:50 PM Very nice indeed. The wavy fur further differentiates them from Zolnixies. Hopefully constructive comments-- 1. I like that the male has more expression, but he looks sad. Maybe lift his head up and back a bit, to give him a sort of challenging or defiant stance? And have him looking forward instead of to the side? I think that might result in a more positive expression for him. 2. People have already made intelligent comments about the leg length. 3. I like the grace of the female's body shape. Perhaps the male could look more muscular? 4. The ears might look better if they were a bit smaller. 5. I'm puzzled as to why the male retains the puppy characteristic of heavy fur on the underside, but the female doesn't. IMO, either both adults should retain the trait or neither should. Overall, these look like excellent sketches. I must acquire more Luporas.

1. I do Agree with SpaceElf1
2. I do Kinda wish that the male would look more Muscular
3. I love that they are fluffy...... but I feel like that the tail is just a little to fluffy
4. I kind of have a feeling that females are more dominated then the males
5. Their legs should be a little thicker it looks kind of skinny

I would make them a little less fluffy (i like the fluff but it looks a tad too much in some spots, mainly the males) I would also like it if the tails didn't cover the back legs. I feel like that would cover too much of the genes on the back legs. Maybe you can exchange some of the fluff from the tail and add some to the hind legs. The adult females eye and mouth don't match very well with the face.
Also, the pups bodies look a little scrunched up. I'm not to sure of what it is but the male pup looks a little funky. Not sure why though. I loaded this up in photoshop and added some changes that I was talking about just to better explain.


For the adult male, I removed a little fluff from the mane that dropped over his shoulder and moved the tail to an upwards position reminiscent of the male pup. I also added fur to the hind legs.
For the adult female I used the males eye and put it on the female and made her eye look gentler than the males but still menacing. I positioned her tail so that she isn't hiding behind it. I left the floofy look to her to add a more feminine look.
For the male hatchling, I positioned his head and tail lower. I added some fuz to look like a mohawk. I also gave him a tad more hindleg fur.
Finally, for the female hatching, I positioned her ears upwards and added a few fur curls to her tail add some uniqueness.

I really like the new designs but here are my suggestions. Thank you for allowing feedback!
I am open to comments on my suggestion!

EDIT: May have made the Adult Male's tail too long. And while adding their hind legs they seem to be really short and their paws kinda small. I also noticed the female hatchings eyes kinda stick out compared to the adult and her male counterpart.

EDIT 2: Also noticed the male hatchlings face looks similar to a puffador. Maybe it could look a little different?

I do like them better than the original, the fur is so fluffy and cute, and the ears seem a bit more in-line with their heads. however, I agree with the others that the legs should be longer and thicker.
Also, the placement of the legs seems very passive on both of them, they're just standing there. maybe have one leg picked up, or they can be crouched, or something? Other than that great job!

I think I'd like to see just a bit of fang, on both of them...just a touch of a pointy eyetooth from the upper jaw, down and slightly curved over the lip of the lower jaw. Small, elegant paws on the adults is normal for the body type, this is a common thing in dogs, for the adult canine foot to look absurdly small on the leg, while the puppy paws are not uncommonly known to be huge. The back of the skull does need to be thicker and wider than the neck it's on...else, how would you get a collar to stay on with that huge ruff they have?

I love how they're looking so far! I have to agree with what a lot of people have said about the legs feeling a bit short and the tails possibly covering genes, but I also think the ears (mainly on the male) could perk up a bit more. Other than that, can't wait for the revamp, hatchlings are adorable as always and I just want to flop my face into that fur XD