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LonelyRyu
Level 72
Knight
Joined: 4/24/2015
Threads: 74
Posts: 423
Posted: 7/14/2021 at 9:10 PM Post #1
I still do not understand how to use the Nytekrie generator.

Now..I get that you have both the old and "new" generator open in separate tabs and you do the ol' copy-pasta of the pets image url into the old generator and make your changes HOWEVER I do not understand what to do next.

After you make your changes in the old generator then what? If I hit the 'Confirm Changes' in the new generator will it register the changes I made in the old one?
How do I change the colors in the new one when it won't let me?

I do not do that stuff much and since the new generator is a "super rough" version I would like some layman terms on what to do..step by step because I do not want to go through all that effort making my changes to a pet, getting it the way I want only to lose it all because there are no real instructions.

So if someone could give a walk through (and don't assume I know what you are talking about) it would be awesomely appreciated.
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 91
Posts: 4,302
Posted: 7/14/2021 at 10:27 PM Post #2
You don't need two generators open to regen nytes
Nytes who can regen traits will take you to Regenerator v2, where you can pick from the vis/carried/hidden traits they previously had (which are still viable- in some cases a trait that they had as a Hidden is now a more dominant trait than one they had as a vis trait due to slot shuffling, making that hidden no longer viable)
Many people use the regular generator to work out what traits they'll go with since it lets them work out what colour palette they intend to eventually go with and which of the traits they have access to will work best with it (because of the way that mutations were split, nytes that previously had either an m1 or m2 have access to both of the now split versions of the traits, m1/body and m3/head)
Once they've decicded on what trait+colour combo, they'll finalise their trait selection in RegeneratorV2, which then grants access to regeneratorV1, where they can do the colours.

so
> Regenerator v2 lets you pick the traits of a nyte, based on what it preciously had. For some nytes there's no real choice, but for others there's more

> regenerator v1 lets you pick their colours, since non-pb offspring and tamed-with-traits nytes and all got access to full colour regen

> if a nyte has access to Regenerator V2 it cannot access V1 until its traits have been picked.

> people use the regular generator to work out what they'll do for the final design of a nyte since it lets them check the traits they have access to on different colourschemes (and makes it easier to move a predetermined colourset across to the regeneratorV1 via colur save slots, but this is in no way a necessity or fundamental part of nyte regen
(an example from my own nytes, using the regular generator let me view assorted options:
for them, which traits to go with, what colours etc.- in this one's case, I had access to two different m1 options and full colour regen, but in some others it's things like having to pick two out of three viable traits for a 2v)
Edited By Scathreoite on 7/14/2021 at 10:31 PM.
LonelyRyu
Level 72
Knight
Joined: 4/24/2015
Threads: 74
Posts: 423
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 7:18 AM Post #3
(Sigh) I'm sorry..I must be dense because if I use the regular generator I have access to far more than the Generator V2 because maybe I'd like one trait better over the other BUT if Generator V2 restricts me to just changing the traits it already has despite saying under the pet in its profile that all the traits it has can be regenerated then what's the point if you are stuck with traits -visually at least- that you don't want?

See..on the V2 it even strongly suggests you use the old generator first then take it to the new one but never tells you how.

For example lets say my pet has Mystic Stripes but I want, say, Raptor Stripe..sure, I can change it in the old generator but if the V2 doesn't allow me to change anything except what the pet already has despite what I want then what's the point?

Seems like the V2 is horrifically restricted and we were better off with using the old as one actually had choices rather than being stuck with a pet that we really have no freedom to alter.

Also..how can I change any colors in V2 when it won't let me do anything?

Ok..here is what I wanna do as an example...
I have this one:

and you can see it it not too interesting so I wanna change it to this:



But according to the V2 despite sticking to the three allowable visible traits the original has I am stuck using traits I don't want.
Seems my only hope lies in purchasing a mystical essence to get what I want and breed to get other results.

P.S: The second result is supposed to be male but saved as female for some odd reason
Edited By LonelyRyu on 7/15/2021 at 8:05 AM.
Faeyla
Level 75
Trickster
Joined: 10/11/2014
Threads: 38
Posts: 1,240
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 12:20 PM Post #4
I think the main issue here is the mistaken belief that all traits are available to regen. Krin has purposely restricted the traits you can regen to basically what the pet had originally. He doesn't want revamps to create tons of fully regen pets. Each revamp has had more restrictions.

As was stated earlier, using the regular generator just lets you play with all the possible traits to help you decide which traits you would want of the available ones on the regen pet. Yes, the regular generator has them all. No, your pet does not have them all.

I have never copy and pasted anything, just choose traits that are available from the drop down. And yes, you may be restricted to traits you don't like now. I use to love storm armor, now I don't. So if a pet is restricted to the storm armor/helm traits, I probably won't keep it.

Revamps usually switch up what traits I like. It is just the nature of them.

Hope that helps

Edit: If you let me know what traits you are after, I might be able to help. I have a decent number of regens I still have to go through.
Edited By Faeyla on 7/15/2021 at 12:22 PM.
LonelyRyu
Level 72
Knight
Joined: 4/24/2015
Threads: 74
Posts: 423
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 12:41 PM Post #5
Well that is all fine and dandy but how do I adjust the colors then? I can select one trait -if it is highlighted- but what about the colors? I still have no idea how to do that.
If I have a pet with hideous colors and want to change them then how do I do that in the V2 Generator?

I can't click on any colors when I hit the color palate tab and change anything and I don't want to be stuck with a pet that is forced to have the same awful colors it started with.

I did message Krin because I need some instructions on how to do this.

I am sorry if I sound dense but I do the copy-pasta because then I can get a better idea of what is what but in the end I stall can't adjust the colors in the V2 and can't figure out how it works.

Used three different browsers and still can't adjust anything so if anyone can tell me how to adjust the colors at least then maybe I can move on in tailoring my pets the best I am allowed.
Skor
Level 75
Luck of the Draw
Joined: 6/26/2018
Threads: 53
Posts: 1,707
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 12:48 PM Post #6
Pretty sure you have to do the traits before you can change colors.
LonelyRyu
Level 72
Knight
Joined: 4/24/2015
Threads: 74
Posts: 423
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 12:54 PM Post #7
...I select the incredibly limited choice of traits I am allowed yet for some reason I still cannot adjust the colors.
I click the color palate tab but still cannot adjust any colors. Can't even copy-pasta colors from the old generator either
Skor
Level 75
Luck of the Draw
Joined: 6/26/2018
Threads: 53
Posts: 1,707
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 1:04 PM Post #8
I don't understand how you're trying to change the colors. The palette tab only shows you the current colors. I bought a regenable nyte just to see how it's done, the step-by-step instructions are pretty much all over the pages.

1. Pick traits, click the regen button.
2. It takes you back to the pet profile page. Click the re-generate colors button.

You're brought to a screen much like the regular generator, but you can only change colors instead of traits. There is no option to load URL. This is correct. You'll have to pick them manually or paste hexes.
LonelyRyu
Level 72
Knight
Joined: 4/24/2015
Threads: 74
Posts: 423
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 1:20 PM Post #9
..I see. I was hesitant to click the button to confirm the changes because I was worried that I wouldn't be able to change anything afterwards.

See..it is not 'obvious' to someone like me who doesn't do stuff like this much and there are no 'step-by-step' instructions really. On the V2 you are told that is it strongly suggested to copy the URL into the old generator to make adjustments but nothing to explain that you can't change any traits only the colors.
I just think it is an error to assume everyone is going to automatically understand how it all works.

I care little about the amount of traits but it is just annoying to be stuck with traits I don't really want and cannot swap out. For example if a pet has a SkullBird armor but I want to swap it out with Moon Armor..I can't do that.

Anyways I think I finally get it now. Thanks for putting up with my stupidity
Skor
Level 75
Luck of the Draw
Joined: 6/26/2018
Threads: 53
Posts: 1,707
Posted: 7/15/2021 at 2:04 PM Post #10
The suggestion to load in the normal generator is just to help you visualize your options, it's not really a necessary step in the regen process

I'm fairly certain that the regen functionality was introduced in order to compensate players for the changes made to pets as a result of the revamp. I doubt the intent was to allow anyone to create brand new projects with extreme ease. It does kinda suck to have traits you don't want - but it's likely these are pets bought by other players, not carefully bred by oneself. You're already saving about 12 dyes per pet you regen, and it's still far easier than spending months on a normal project created by any other method.
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