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Forum Index > Player Guides > How to Stat Breed, WITH PICTURES!
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Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:15 PM Post #1
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 1:01 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:16 PM Post #2
1. background information why people stat breed

All pets have a certain base stat.
Whether it's vulnyx, or a bulbori, or a lunemara, at their bases (at level 0), they have baseline stats from birth.

Now you can use level up points, proficiency points, and equipment to increase these stats, but those can only add so much oomph. Plus, other users can get the same equipment and same level up/proficiency point allocations to add to their pets, thus matching other builds of other pets.

So how do certain breeders get an edge on ordinary pets when equipment and level ups aren't enough?

They increase the baselines.

Using philters, which can only be used upon the hatching of an egg, can increase the base stats of a pet.

Breeders can improve on the foundations of the pets they breed, which give them an advantage over ordinary pets that have regular baselines. Do this enough, and the gap can mean an extra 100+ damage or extra 1000+ health, WITHOUT even equipping armor OR allocating level ups.

However, this takes quite a bit of time, and using the best resources takes immense amounts of diamonds (cash). So it takes quite some dedication for several months to get some good pets.


How stat breeding works: the numbers

"if you are breeding two pets with different base stats, you will receive a pet with stats anywhere at all between the two." - Zarhail

When your pets breed together, within each parent's base stats, the offspring will have some base stat within the range of difference between the parents.

Say you bred two pets, one with 30 strength and one with 40 strength.
The offspring can possibly have any strength stat between 30 and 40. ie 31, 37, 35

You'll want the highest base stat parents as possible. Say if your highest strength pet was the one with 40 strength, you might want a mate with say, 38 strength. You narrow the range difference, and in fact, make it higher.
The offspring can have a strength stat from 38 to 40. ie 38, 39, 40
Much better than the previous pair.

How do philters help?
They increase the offspring's stat upon hatching.

Say with the first baby, you would've gotten 31 strength. With a Lesser Philter of Vigor, this pet would have 5 additional points in strength, which makes a total of 36 strength.

<- Lesser Philter of Vigor

With the second baby, with a stat of say 39 strength, the same Lesser Philter of Vigor would make the offspring have 44 strength. Big difference, right? That's why the parents must be close and very high in their stats for optimal stat raising.

Now let's say you managed to philter your way to having two breedable kids with 44 strength each.
If you bred THOSE together, you'd have a baby with 44 strength by default. But by using a Lesser Philter of Vigor on that baby, you can get a baby with 49 strength.

If that isn't enough or fast enough, you can use a regular Philter of Vigor, which adds 20 strength to a baby.

<- Philter of Vigor (regular)

OR if you wanna increase EVERYTHING at the same time, you can use a Prismatic Philter, which adds 200 HP and 10 of the other stats (strength, intelligence, dexterity, and agility).

<- Prismatic Philter

Do this enough times, with breedable pairs, and you'll have a high stat baby.
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 12:58 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:16 PM Post #3
2. hypothesis what we should expect from stat breeding

The following procedure below is assuming the philters one uses is dedicated to increasing ONE stat.

Trying to use multiple different philters will backfire, because you are trying to build numbers high.
So many sure you use a LOT of philters OF THE SAME KIND.
Increase ONE stat (or in the case of prismatic philters, all the stats at once).

At the beginning, your parents may have a certain base stat of say, 40. Or something.

At the end of one month, your parents will have children, that if philtered with:
lesser philter: +5
regular philter: +20
prismatic philter: +10 (and other stats)

extra points.

After another month (two months total):
lesser philter: +10
regular philter: +40
prismatic philter: +20 (and other stats)

extra points total, compared to the parents.

And after yet ANOTHER month (three months total):
lesser philter: +15
regular philter: +60
prismatic philter: +30 (and other stats)

extra points total, compared to the parents.

While this takes a long time, the gap, given enough time, will be rewarding. c:
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 12:48 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:16 PM Post #4
3. materials what we need before starting

you will be needing:

-4 unrelated pets
they will serve as the parents
make sure that they are all unrelated, whether they are already offspring OR essence-generated


-philters, LOTS OF THEM, 4 philters per generation

-stable space to house as many pets as you will need for this project

-gold to feed said pets, or at least for each time you breed them

-patience and time
remember: pets, from eggling to adulthood stages, need about 27 days at most to age. that's per generation.
you better be ready to wait that long for MULTIPLE generations to go through with stat breeding.
Edited By Flute on 7/30/2014 at 11:23 PM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:16 PM Post #5
4. procedure WITH PICTURES
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step one, get the parents in order




pA, pB, pC, and pD will be your four unrelated pets that you'll be starting with.
I'll be pairing pA with pB, which is why they're blue.
Same with pC and pD, which is why they're hot purple. do sticky notes even come in that color
Keep in mind that you'll have to wait til each pair are adults before they can breed.

if you are using essences, you have spent
4 essences
in this step

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step 2A, breed and philter the children




From the first blue pair (pA x pB), I get their child, BLUE c1. Make sure to philter the child with whatever philter you choose.
Do the same with the hot purple pair (pC x pD), philtering their child, HOT PURPLE c1.

step 2B, breed and philter ANOTHER PAIR of children



Have your parents breed another child. I will call the blue pair's (pA x pB) second child BLUE c2. And the hot purple pair's (pC x pD) child HOT PURPLE c2.
You must philter THESE children as well.

you have spent
4 philters
in this step

4 philters total

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step 3A, use previous pairs to breed a pair of children




After waiting for those children to hatch, breed them, BLUE c1 to HOT PURPLE c1, and BLUE c2 to HOT PURPLE c2.
Make sure to philter those children too.

I shall call em GREEN k1 and YELLOW k1. yay more sticky notes

This step should look similar to step 2A.

step 3B, use previous pairs to breed ANOTHER pair of children



Look familiar?

Breed another pair, much like in step 2B. Let's call them GREEN k2 and YELLOW k2.
And don't forget to philter them!

you have spent
4 philters
in this step

8 philters total

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step 4A, use previous pairs to breed a pair of children




At this point, it's repetitive, if you pick up the pattern. From both k1, we get BLUE g1. From both k2, we get HOT PURPLE g1.
sorry guys, ran out of sticky note colors
Make sure to philter them!

step 4B, use previous pairs to breed ANOTHER pair of children

At this point, I was too lazy to make another picture you should understand by now that you're going to be using each pair to make two babies. In this case, a BLUE g2 and a HOT PURPLE g2.
Philter them.

you have spent
4 philters
in this step

12 philters total

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step 5A, use previous pairs to breed a pair of children




Again, looks familiar. From g1s, we get YELLOW s1. From g2s, GREEN s1. Philter them too!

step 5B, use previous pairs to breed ANOTHER pair of children

No picture again
You should breed YELLOW s2 and GREEN s2, similar to the previous steps, like 2B, 3B, and 4B.

you have spent
4 philters
in this step

16 philters total

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So on and so forth, keep repeating until you get the desired result.
Edited By Flute on 8/27/2014 at 9:16 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:17 PM Post #6
5. example i'll figure one out
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:17 PM Post #7
6. conclusion overview of stat breeding

Basically, the entire process is:
1. Get/make 2 pairs of parents parents
2. Breed, get and philter 2 pairs of children per pair of parents (4 children/philters total)
3. Breed the 2 pairs of children together and get those children (4 children/philters more)
4. Repeat 3 until satisfied.


Depending on how many generations you're going, it should look a little like this:



And yes, it can get messy sometimes if you're not organized.



If you used enough philters and went through enough generations, you should notice that the base stat you focused on should be higher than what you started with.

You should also be able to breed whatever pets you have utilizing this method.

This is NOT the ONLY way to do a stat breeding project, as there are MANY WAYS to go about breeding. c:
Feel free to post how you go about your breeding patterns, or feel free to study this one until you get a feel for it.
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 1:03 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:17 PM Post #8
7. recommendations better ways to go about this

-while lesser philters are plentiful, and while regular philters raise a bigger amount of stat, most stat breeders like to use prismatic philters, as they have a well-rounded increase towards all stats, making the pet stronger around all parts.

-enhanced OR mythical essence-generated pets have the BEST stats compared to captured or regular-generated pets, therefore are typical parents of stat projects (you may check Eimell's guide for the comparisons of generated pets)

-fabled pets (ie ny'vene, griffi, nephini) generally have better stats than regular pets (ie qitari, zolnixi, lunemara), by about 20 points or so. (you may also check Eimell's guide for the comparisons, though it may not be updated to include the newest pet species)
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 12:47 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:17 PM Post #9
8. bibliography sources of everything i used here

http://gyazo.com for screenshots
http://prezi.com for laying out pictures, template name is Mind Mapping

On breeding to sell: a guide by Zarhail
A Guide To Stat Breeding by Eimell
Edited By Flute on 7/31/2014 at 12:41 AM.
Flute
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Posted: 7/30/2014 at 11:17 PM Post #10
9. post for notes if i forgot anything
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