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Chaosempress
Level 60
The Majestic
Joined: 10/31/2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 107
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 12:09 AM Post #1
Hello I would like to eventually buy a mate for this girl:


She's a carrier, so you know. She's not themed or anything special except being my starter.

If it's not too much of a bother I would just like estimates right now. I want to know how much I need to save for. I was told I should post here since I intend to buy a mate. So I hope this is correct.

Thank you all for your time and trouble
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Nevermind! Thank you for your time.
Edited By Chaosempress on 8/4/2015 at 3:13 AM.
Wander
Level 74
Trickster
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 46
Posts: 1,253
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 12:32 AM Post #2
Hey :)

I had a quick look through the search function and it looks like someone has a male up for breeding that also has the same 4 carried traits (and a couple of others)... Here he is (just not the same colour scheme).

You could seek to buy a single male that carries the same 4 carried traits (Enhanced Essence if you want the mate generated rather than bred)... Or you could buy multiple males / females that all carry one or more of the traits and breed towards a 4 vis (this could then require only Regular Essences if you want the mate/s generated rather than bred).

Cost: Currently anywhere from 60,000g to 500,000g if you were to buy the Essences and depending on how you wanted to go about it.
Chaosempress
Level 60
The Majestic
Joined: 10/31/2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 107
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:19 AM Post #3
So if I wanted one generated it could cost me 60k or more? Wow. I may go with breeding for now.

Thanks for the info.
Edited By Chaosempress on 8/4/2015 at 1:20 AM.
Wander
Level 74
Trickster
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 46
Posts: 1,253
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:29 AM Post #4
Regular Essences are currently about 30,000g each. You'll get 2 trait points which means (at a minimum) you'll need 2 pets generated. I can explain how you'd approach this breeding, if you'd like.

The Enhanced Essence on the Trade Broker is currently 500,000g. You'll get 4 trait points so you'll only need 1 pet generated.

Breeding might be the way to go initially but I should point out that the statistical chances of two 4 carry pets transferring the 8 carries (to make 4 visible) is approximately 0.39% - its a pretty low chance. Statistically this means you may have to try and breed the pets together 256 (or more times) before you get the perfect 4 vis... At 1,000g per breeding, for example, this would end up costing 256,000g!

It's would still be inconvenient time-wise if you owned the pet but at least if you own the pet you can breed to your heart's content without the cost increasing :)

Edit: To correct formatting error.
Edited By Wander on 8/4/2015 at 1:29 AM.
Wander
Level 74
Trickster
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 46
Posts: 1,253
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:34 AM Post #5
Additional thought, you could also look for breeding partners that may carry some (but not all) of the traits you're looking for and work towards a 4 vis that way. Might take some planning though and would still depend on how much the breeding fees cost as to how much it would cost to get the 4 vis.
Chaosempress
Level 60
The Majestic
Joined: 10/31/2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 107
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:36 AM Post #6
Well I didn't expect 4 vis, but at least two of the traits. Wish there was a quicker/easier way to earn gold.
Chaosempress
Level 60
The Majestic
Joined: 10/31/2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 107
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:38 AM Post #7
Forgot to ping you before. Lol Thanks for the advice.
Edited By Chaosempress on 8/4/2015 at 1:53 AM.
Wander
Level 74
Trickster
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 46
Posts: 1,253
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:51 AM Post #8
Oooohhhh... okay, if you're not necessarily after 4 vis then I have some other ideas...

You could look for 2 vis + males (with matching traits to your female)... You'd be guaranteed to get the contribution from the male partner and have a 50/50 chance that your female would contribute her carry... With a 25% chance - 1 in 4 - that you'd get the 2 vis!

For example, if we were looking for a male with visible Advanced Runes and Dragon Wings, there are 14 males to choose from... With the cheapest being 840g per breeding... I'd pick this one as he also has a visible M2: Dimetrodon Fin which would be recessive to your female's M2: Back Spikes meaning if she contributed her M2 carry you should get the Back Spikes.

This male is 50g per breeding and has visible Advanced Runes and Spiral Horns.

These two here and here have Dragon Wings and Back Spikes for 1g per breeding. The second one also has a carried M3: Spiral Horns.

This guy has Dragon Wings and Spiral Horns for a 1g breeding.

I'm sure there are plenty of others out there that would be good options too!
Chaosempress
Level 60
The Majestic
Joined: 10/31/2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 107
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 1:54 AM Post #9
Sorry I should have made that clear. I'm tired.

I forgot to ask what would happen if I bred her with someone with different genes, Ex: she carries dragon the male carries feathered wings?
Edited By Chaosempress on 8/4/2015 at 1:56 AM.
Wander
Level 74
Trickster
Joined: 3/8/2015
Threads: 46
Posts: 1,253
Posted: 8/4/2015 at 2:09 AM Post #10
No worries :)

You can breed totally breed pets with those that have different genes. What will happen is that the more "dominant" gene will be the one that shows if both parents contribute a trait point to that particular gene / mutation spot.

For example, if I breed this lady (visible G3 Leaf Veins) and this guy (visible G3 Cloud Runes) together the offspring will have a visible G3 Leaf Veins (as Leaf Veins are dominant to Cloud Runes). Incidentally, if (after testing) you look at the offspring's image URL:

https://www.sylestia.com/image_builder_pet.php?species=kelpari&breed=sylesti&gender=male&gd1=NN&gd2=NN&gd3=CD&md1=NA&md2=NN&md3=NA&ec=f3f695&c1=c9fdfa&c2=fef4f9&c3=aea5ef&gd1c=6795e8&gd2c=effb99&gd3c=9789f3&md1c=c1eaa9&md2c=61d8f2&md3c=d5fefb&maturity=263&owned=1&size=250

you'll see that the offspring carries C (Leaf Veins) and D (Cloud Runes). This means that the offspring could potentially be bred with another pet that has Cloud Runes and may produce Cloud Runes in the next generation as the offspring could contribute C or D.

You can work out which genes and mutations are dominant in the generator. Those that are A are most dominant and then it progresses to most recessive as you go through the alphabet. E.g. D is recessive to A, B and C but is dominant to E, F, G, etc.
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