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Reifanwintersun
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Posted: 3/27/2020 at 9:10 PM
Post #1
What's a good way to price pets? My working formula (because I'm a math nerd) is P=L*10T+200 (P=Price, L=Level, T=Trait Points). Therefore, a Level 0 with no traits would be worth 200, a Level 3 with 2 revealed trait points would be worth 3200, and a Level 10 with 6 revealed trait points would be worth 10000200 (I think - doing mental math).
Also, are items on a pet transferred back to your inventory when they are sold, or do they carry over along with the pet?
Edited By Reifanwintersun on 3/27/2020 at 9:20 PM.
Scathreoite
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Posted: 3/27/2020 at 9:58 PM
Post #2
Level as a general rule doesn't have that much impact on price (save pets that are perhaps lv60+), since it's pretty easy to level things up, and a lot of people just don't bother levelling things up unless it's a pet specifically to use on their party.
(and I assure you you won't be able to sell a 3v or 6 carry pet for 10million+, not unless it's like, a legendary wild themed nephini)
I'd say, important factors to consider:
What Species (just a matter of popularity; more popular ones will have more people likely to buy it),
What is its Rarity/ What is its TP count (rarity for wild-caught, TP for bred pets, since bred pets aren't thought of using the rarity words, and are instead referred to just by their tp count),
Is it Themed or Purebred,
Is it a Project,
What are its Stats,
Is it Mutated,
It is Regenerable
Common are unlikely to sell unless they are very, very pretty (and/or nephini) Not likely to sell for more than a very, very small amount of gold, certainly not worth the price of the trap used if you're trying to catch to sell.
Uncommon are unlikely to sell unless they are very, very pretty (and/or nephini), or maybe if they have a newly released trait (like... released within the last week). Also unlikely to sell for more than the worth of the trap used.
Rare also not very likely to sell unless they a) pretty, b) have particularly desirable trait(s), or c) are a themed pet.
Rare Themed pets will generally at the least make up the price of the trap used, though the exact worth varies with the theme in question. Can go for barely trap price up to hundreds of thousands, depending on the theme.
Exclusive themes are likely to fetch a decent price, though again it depends on the exact theme.
Epic have a better chance of selling, though again, if it's just a random wild pet it will depend on the aesthetics of the pet and what the traits are.
Epic themes are worth a quite respectable amount of gold, I'd say the absolute baseline lowest for them tends to be about 20k
Legendary tamed pets can fetch a very respectable price- generally 600k is the lowest they get sold for since outside of the lost grove they can only be caught with master snare traps
Mythical, same as legendary, but More.
Project offspring (typically completed 6v or max stat projects) tend to go for 100k minimum, preferably 250k+ (esp. for max stats)
Purebreed offspring price varies with the theme, and by the number of vis, the stats, and the overall aesthetics of the trait combo that was bred for
Pets with respectable stats can potentially fetch a few tens of thousands
Tamed Theme pets that have been Mutated can take a blow to their price, since the person buying it might have wanted to mutate a specific trait onto it and cannot if it's already been mutated (typically not worth it to use a mutator on a pet you plan to sell, since it's unlikely they'll make back the cost of the item used)
Pets that can be regenerated typically go for 50k+, and can get into the hundreds of thousands (pet worth taking into account things like regenerable tp count, species, pet stats, etc)
A good idea is often to check advanced search for pets similar to the one(s) you want to sell and see what they're going for.
And you know what I have no idea what happens if you have equipment on a pet that you're selling?
Admittedly I've never sold a pet that has equips on so.
(I'm not sure how helpful this is but I've given it a go at least)
Edited By Scathreoite on 3/27/2020 at 10:02 PM.
Orcastration
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Posted: 3/27/2020 at 11:06 PM
Post #3
So...when selling a pet, you can't sell it if it has equiptment or anything in its slots
you have to get rid of it through the invent first then you can sell it
Mikazukichan
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Posted: 3/27/2020 at 11:12 PM
Post #4
Scath hit just about everything that can affect price for a sylesti, but they missed one thing that can also make your prices take a hit: the pet having been bred.
A bred pet cannot have its gender swapped, so a potential buyer might want the colours, traits, and species you have to offer, but just need the opposite gender, so if you bred that pet, you've either lost a buyer, or taken a significant hit in price because that person will have to purchase yet another opposite gender pet to make their vision possible.
For first generation themed pets there is a second reason that breeding kills the sale price: trait disruption. An unbred first generation (gold star) themed pet can use an item called "Philter of Trait Disruption (Themed)" to reroll all of their traits to new ones. This means that even a theme with (objectively) the ugliest trait combination can be sold for quite a bit as long as they are unbred, as the purchaser could get a disruptor and try for better traits on that pet. If the pet is bred, the traits are locked in and the price can plummet quite drastically.
Reifanwintersun
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 2:45 AM
Post #5
I've revised my formula (I don't want to make it too complex).
P=10T-10(T2). If T=0 or 1, add 50. If pet doesn't have a good aesthetic, /2.
As for other details, I'm too lazy to make a fully-fledged formula at midnight. >w< If I have something with extra special features, I'll adjust as I see fit. I also haven't tested the formula past 4 Trait Points, so if the exponents get out of hand I'll figure something out later.
24carrotgold
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 10:31 AM
Post #6
Uhh just saying, but a pet with 2 visible traits (4 tp) isn't worth ~10k gold, unless it's themed.
Edited By Mossflight2 on 3/28/2020 at 11:51 AM.
Larkian
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 11:46 AM
Post #7
Two carried traits is 2 tp :P
24carrotgold
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 11:51 AM
Post #8
Oops, my bad xD
Fixed
Mikazukichan
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 12:09 PM
Post #9
that calculation... is quickly going to become ridiculous >> If I understand it correctly, the price of a regular 6 visible pet (12 tp) would be 999,999,998,560 gold. I think the most expensive pet I've seen sell ever was in the 15,000,000 gold range, and that was a tagged Lucky Nephini if I'm not mistaken. I mean, gold isn't hard to get, but it's not so easy that the average player has billions, never mind hundreds of billions of gold >>
And even if T represents number of visible traits, a regular 6 visible pet would come to 999,640, which is also way higher than you will see pretty much anything except max and super stat 6 visible pets go for.
I'm not sure there *is* a blanket pricing formula that would work for all pets. Trying to do so will probably either make your pets end up in the stratosphere and no one will buy, or you'll end up pricing so low that you're missing out on profits. So much of what goes into what people will pay for a certain pet is subjective and isn't easily quantifiable. Popular vs unpopular species, popular vs unpopular traits, colour scheme, is it a theme, is it a popular or unpopular theme, gender, how easy is it to get an identical pet, high or low stats (and does the buyer care), is it a project pet that took months to more than a year to get just right.... and then add in that all of that criteria, and the opinions on most of that criteria, is going to change person to person.... and it really is hard to just plop the numbers and 'yeses' and 'nos' into a formula and come out with a price that will make sense every time.
Orcastration
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Posted: 3/28/2020 at 12:15 PM
Post #10
I do actually use a sort of formula...but only for nonthemed pets
Base price: 500
Add 500 for every TP
Minues 1000 if it's been bred before
Minus 750 if it's a meh looking
Release if under 1k
works well so far for me but then i'm not looking to make gold from it
for themeds and other stuff I go by AS
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