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Forum Index > Suggestion Box > Stop Sylestia Times Pings
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Thunderess
Level 70
Majestic Brewmistress
Joined: 1/22/2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 626
Posted: 10/2/2020 at 11:43 AM Post #1
I'm not a fan of site wide pings for user-created content. Yes, the Times is great and I'm glad a set of users have found a nice way to contribute to the community, but unless it's official sylestia news posted by an admin, I'd prefer to not be pinged to it every month.

It seems like it'd be better for the Times creators to follow the example of other large threads and create a ping list for people who are actually consistently interested in its release. A Subscription List, if you'd like, as most papers and magazines do XD

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would prefer those of the userbase who were actually invested in the Times be the only ones pinged for it.

TL;DR - No Sitewide Pings for User Created Content, Please. That's not what they're supposed to be for.
Tori
Level 70
Trickster
Joined: 1/7/2014
Threads: 30
Posts: 1,580
Posted: 10/2/2020 at 11:56 AM Post #2

Heavy, heavy support.

I understand why the pings for the Times started, but now it has become an annoyance to the point where I actively avoid reading the times. I know I am in the September 2020 issue of the times and I don't even want to read my segment because I'm so annoyed by the site-wide pings.

Given it's entirely user-run, it creates an unfair divide between The Times and the rest of the user created content as well. Krin doesn't ping for user-run contests, doesn't ping for user-run groups, and doesn't ping for user-run guides. It's not fair to decide "Oh, this is the exception actually." By all means continue to pin it to the top of General, I have no objections to that, but I did not sign up for pings for The Times. I hardly sign up to be pinged for ANY user-run content. I do not appreciate the admin of the site deciding this one user-run thing is the exception to the rule, and that I need to be pinged to it regardless.

If it's a user-run group, then it should be treated as any other user-run group, AND other newspaper outlets. They should take it upon themselves to gather a list of people who actively WANT to be notified when a new Times comes out, and ping them themselves.

Not to mention I've noticed a trend where the times are continuing to be less and less about Sylestia. If I am getting a ping by The Admin of A Site, I expect the news I get to be about The Site I Have Signed Up For. I do not want 'fun facts' about anything else. I do not want stories of things Not Related To That Site. I just want The Site News.

I do NOT want any more pings for the Times. Not unless it's 100% Related To Sylestia, and I sign up for it personally.
Hiraeth
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 7/14/2015
Threads: 187
Posts: 2,685
Posted: 10/2/2020 at 12:01 PM Post #3
I pretty much agree with everything Tori stated above. It's a great project, and the amount of time and effort that goes into it is great, but why should we all be pinged about it? Like Tori said, it's user run content, and has recently been deviating from Sylestia related stuff. I think it's a wonderful organization, but they should have a pinglist for those who want to get pinged.
WingsOfAmber
Level 75
The Majestic
Joined: 11/8/2015
Threads: 34
Posts: 954
Posted: 10/2/2020 at 4:14 PM Post #4
Support, also for the reasons stated above.
Mikazukichan
Level 75
The Artistic
Joined: 1/28/2014
Threads: 313
Posts: 9,544
Posted: 10/2/2020 at 4:47 PM Post #5
More support here.

I tend to enjoy reading the Times. Usually I've already read it by the time the ping goes out, honestly. But I agree, more and more the Times is less about Sylestia and is more about... other things *shrugs* But that's neither here nor there for this suggestion.

I agree that while the Times is nice, and can have some good community stuff going on, it is a player-run project, and like all other player-run projects, should not have a global ping. Pinning it to the top of general every month, and having a 'subscription' should be enough (though, I do feel for those with ping lists when people change their usernames all the time and don't inform all the lists they're on... then the people keeping those lists have to go through every name to find the one that's stopping the ping from going through >>).

Anyway, Tori said it all better than I can, but just chiming in to say I agree XP
Katty
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 4/16/2018
Threads: 212
Posts: 4,165
Posted: 10/3/2020 at 1:27 AM Post #6
It gets a little hinky when there are advertisements in the times too. 2 out of 5 being advertisements for L (does she charge people to have advertisements btw? Im really not ok with that at ALL) and she talks about her designs, projects, themes and other stuff L related often. I know its because she says she ran out of time but i also know i was mailed about my piece in this month like 6 hours before i was pinged. There is also the issue of sometimes wrong information being in the times. Back in the april times there was a mistake made in an article about the mistwarden, frostkeeper and dawnbreaker aeris. "Now the third Aeri themed, the Mistwardens, are actually found in a very special way: breeding a tagged Mistwarden and Dawnbreak!"

If we are getting pinged to read something i feel like someone that works for the site should read it to ensure the information in it is correct. If i hadnt pointed out the mistake we could have had newer players breeding dishwater aeris cause they only had a mistwarden male and a dawnbreaker female. That is not how to make more mistwarden and the fact that it went live with that information was a bother. Even though i pinged them about the mistake it wasnt fixed till long after everyone was pinged about it.

Lets talk about the non sylestia content, suggesting books for people to read for a sitewide thing is hard. If you suggested something like harry potter are you suggesting a book series to someone deeply religious that would get in severe trouble for reading it? Are the suggestions appropriate for a younger user? With Anime are they appropriate for all ages? I havent checked all the anime and book suggestions but a few of them were adult books and likely had adult themes in them

In short i really dont feel that getting a ping every single month from user content that isnt read by admins (i mean who has time to do all the needed stuff in site AND read through the times before it is pinged right?) is a very bad idea especially when it feels like the site itself is endorsing the stuff in it. Some issues feel like a "lets talk about L and her friends" and i have often said it needs to be alot less biased. This is just my take on the whole thing.
Xedite
Level 71
The Perfectionist
Joined: 12/16/2019
Threads: 54
Posts: 3,984
Posted: 10/3/2020 at 2:34 AM Post #7
Support. I like having the option to opt out of community related pings. While I support the Sylestia Times team, I'm often not active here too heavily in the rest of the community, so I honestly just get lost reading through it and find the pings distracting.
Simple gripe, but eh.
Jemadar
Level 74
Grand Protector
Joined: 5/2/2019
Threads: 25
Posts: 689
Posted: 10/3/2020 at 8:48 AM Post #8
I support.

This month I remembered that the ping was coming, but previously I would always forget, then get excited thinking that it was for an update or something like that, then get disappointed when it was the Times ping.

As others have said, I think the Times is a well put together and don't mind it being pinned, but I am not usually that interested in things like that (I rarely read real news papers, or 'news papers' for other games unless it has a specific article in it that interests me). I don't really want to be pinged back to it every month, and if I am interested in it, I can find it on my own, since it is a monthly thing and usually pinned.

Like others I would really prefer site wide pings be used only for site updates, and not player run content, especially if that content doesn't necessarily have to do with Sylestia itself.
Duckbunny427
Level 69
Nature Walker
Joined: 3/12/2019
Threads: 66
Posts: 1,632
Posted: 10/6/2020 at 10:45 AM Post #9
As a memeber I wouldn't be personally interested in this but if you really don't want to see it I guess it would make sense to have an option to not view it.
Yamii
Level 62
The Sweet Tooth
Joined: 10/14/2019
Threads: 162
Posts: 4,947
Posted: 10/6/2020 at 10:57 AM Post #10
Heavy support, the times, as great as they are, aren't something i read and at this point the times get annoying. Also all statements above are true.
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